A former leader in the FBI said Wednesday night the agency was "back to square one" after authorities released a "subject" who had been taken into custody in connection with the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO and co-founder of Turning Point USA, a conservative s...
  • PastafARRian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    84·
    5 天前

    The culprit was found to be Luigi Mangione. When questioned in his holding cell whether he was in Utah at the time, police noted he became “very nervous, visibly shaking”. A manifesto was found in possession.

    Case closed.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
      29·
      5 天前

      I heard they found the gun in Luigi’s backpack. He hasn’t touched the backpack in months, and he’s been locked up all this time, which only proves how diabolical he really is.

  • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world
    171·
    6 天前

    Unfortunately, all of the competent people at the FBI left already.

    Also, don’t forget that Trump very likely fucked a child and is covering it up. Release the Epstein tapes…

  • Iced Raktajino@startrek.website
    185·
    6 天前

    Charlie Kirk. Kirk, 31, was the CEO…

    He was only 31?

    Geezus. Hate really does age you. I’m over 10 years his senior, and he looks 5 years older than me. And for once, this isn’t a humble-brag.

  • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
    160·
    6 天前

    K.

    In other news, Republicans blocked release of the Epstein files.

    Where’s the Epstein files and why is trump and Republicans covering it up?

  • -RJ-@lemmy.worldEnglish
    53·
    5 天前

    Meaning they don’t think the person who shot him was black, trans or had mental health issues.

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
      28·
      5 天前

      Well according to the community forum for my crazy neighborhood it’s definitely a minority trans person who did this.

      Also all mass shootings were done by trans people. Not even joking.

      • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.orgEnglish
        18·
        5 天前

        Trans people are like sub 1% of the us population. These guys are busy.

        I really don’t understand how you can actually believe something like that. Because of my wild 20’s i happen to know a lot of trans or gay or LGBTQ people in general, or more than the average person. If they were that violent, i would know so many murderers. In reality they are just the nicest people imaginable. I get that they obviously don’t know trans people, probably have never seen one, or if they did, they didn’t even know. But even that fact should make you wonder, no? I was at work and some random guy complained about how many jews live here and why that’s a problem, and i just thought that i don’t even know any jew. I worked for one once, and every now and then i see three or four walking around, but only recognise them because they are orthodox and dress like amish people. I actually had to look it up and in and around the next city, there are only 2000 jews, like what are you on about?

    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
      9·
      5 天前

      WSJ is claiming that the rounds recovered from the weapon used had pro trans / “antifascist” things engraved on the bullets - make of that what you will. Generally WSJ’s reporting is factually accurate but incredibly biased, so there’s that? Fuckin’ hell though this is already such a fucking clusterfuck.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
          4·
          5 天前

          That’s completely standard in journalism - and the WSJ, despite being an aggressively horrible publication politically and morally, is quite respected for the strict veracity of it’s reporting. I don’t doubt they were told that, by a reputable source. I have no idea if it’s true beyond that however, since the trump admin isn’t exactly overflowing with decent quality human beings.

      • MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world
        11·
        5 天前

        If that’s actually the case

        then I think it’s just as likely

        that this was done by fascists

        to justify a “war” against “leftists”.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
          4·
          5 天前

          I can’t say I would be surprised for that to be the case.

          I think it’s far more likely for it to have been one decent person who couldn’t take the constant hatred spewed by Kirk. Everyone knows this has been brewing, for it to finally pop on Mr 'Puts His Punchable Face Right Out There And Taunts You For Not Hitting Him" himself isn’t much of a surprise.

  • zrst@lemmy.cif.su
    66·
    5 天前

    Looking forward to a disproportionate amount of resources being dedicated to finding this guy’s killer because he was popular.

    America is a joke and its working class is the punchline.

    • Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca
      15·
      5 天前

      I don’t know if we can even argue that it’s disproportionate. Anywhere you go on the web, this is all anyone is talking about. It’s not media companies shoving the story down our throats - this is all the working class wants to be talking about right now. With this much public attention the response is going to be proportional to the amount of people who are paying attention to this topic.

      I get that this person isn’t as important to care about compared to many many other people suffering and being killed around the world, but we can’t deny that a huge huge number of people are interested in engaging with this topic and some of them even want the shooter to be found.

    • zergtoshi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      5 天前

      Can’t they just pin it on Luigi?
      They did exactly that to him before, why not again?
      Just because he’s in custody?
      Mollycoddles!

  • spacesatan@leminal.spaceEnglish
    31·
    5 天前

    Considering they went after kirk instead of a bigger fish it’s probably somebody deeply personally offended by his minimization of school shootings. That should just narrow it down to all the people who survived a school shooting or lost somebody to one. That’s a short list right?

    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      5 天前

      Might need to check out the people that were the victims of anti-LGBTQ+ violence in the last decade or so, should be a pretty short list still

  • rozodru@piefed.socialEnglish
    40·
    5 天前

    And the conspiracy theories are are already flowing. Apparently Kirk was convinced Israel was going to assassinate him so he had more security and wore body armor during public appearances recently. Another is that he pissed off the Nazi’s to the point they wanted him gone. Another is that it was a distraction op.

    It’s been a fun read the last few hours. Like “Who Shot Mr. Burns?” so…it was probably a baby.

        • Alteon@lemmy.world
          7·
          5 天前

          Yeah, but the people controlling him, like some sort of geriatric meat marionette, are that smart. They are the ones putting the Executive Orders in front of this senile bag of burgers and controlling exactly what he says. The only time you get a glimpse behind the scenes is when he nervously flagilates on Live TV and doesn’t have a prompter to guide him along.

        • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          5 天前

          I’m not saying that it’s true, or even attempting to assert it.

          We are however to the point where this isn’t that crazy of an idea, it’s not out of the realm that these fucks would do this in my mind.

          No proof or evidence either.

      • Brutticus@midwest.social
        9·
        5 天前

        That implies he can play chess. I do see the logic, I could see someone wanting to sac a pawn. There are a lot of dumb theories about who could be playing Trump, like the Russians, or Thiel or whoever, so I don’t want to speculate who

      • rozodru@piefed.socialEnglish
        5·
        5 天前

        yeah this wouldn’t surprise me at all especially now with the “FBI can’t find the shooter!” shit. My tinfoil hat says distraction op.

      • mikezane@lemmy.world
        9·
        5 天前

        Because all conspiracy theories, after you strip away all the overly elaborate chains of communication, the gob smackingly large amount of people who would need to know and be completely silent, and overly complex reasons, always ends up back to the Jews.

      • Jaysyn@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 天前

        He was claiming that Epstein was a Mossad agent & demanding that Trump release the Epstein files.

    • untorquer@lemmy.world
      21·
      6 天前

      Probably fled the state by now. You’ll have to expand the search to guys with high powered rifles in the greater western US.

        • untorquer@lemmy.world
          2·
          5 天前

          Well by now yes they could be anywhere in the world. I was speaking at time of post with my understanding of the original timeline, faulty as it may have been 2min after waking up lol. They might be at mcmurdo for all we know now

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
    47·
    6 天前

    They’re looking for a white male ages 14 to 79 in Utah. So. Basically looking for a needle in a stack of several million needles.

    • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      5 天前

      This is where that super invasive dystopian surveillance tech could really come in handy.

      In Xinjiang, administrators logged people as high, medium, or low risk, often according to 100-point scores with deductions for factors like growing a beard, being 15 to 55 years old, or just being Uyghur.

      Help us narrow it down from a needle in a haystack to a needle in a haystack with a predictive score based on institutional bias. Book 'em Danno!

      • mhague@lemmy.world
        8·
        5 天前

        Telecom black rooms, Flock mass AI surveillance, NSA secret catalogue of zero days… we control the internet backbone and a lot of traffic flows through our country just because it’s cheaper to route that way.

        That’s why we have fusion centers right? You can’t use your fancy spy tech without people parallel constructing a plausible scenario for how someone was really caught.

        Maybe they know where the shooter is right now and they’re just waiting for people to finish the story. Social media post, a call to an old friend, have a tip placed anonymously, suddenly they find him at McDonald’s.

        • redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          5 天前

          They might find the shooter analyzing footage of the area but if the camera setup had anywhere near as many holes as any other college I’ve been to their chances are low, basically hoping social media got the shooter in the background.

        • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          5 天前

          It’s also odd bc within hours of somebody being shot on a public street there was a video and sketch released, but with this guy they allegedly have ccTV footage of him, but they haven’t even released it to the public

      • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 天前

        That’s not the most dystopian surveillance tech around. It gets both more intrusive and more effective…

        Think constant drone surveillance over a whole region. High res cameras, massive storage and long loiter times with glider like drones. You can just keep recording, and then when something like this happens, you just play the video back for the whole last day, following your suspect backward in time to when they left their home in the morning. The system isn’t even all that expensive to operate.

        Say goodbye to privacy.