The EU Commission is lying open on social media about chat control. Tomorrow EU governments debate about Chat control 2.0 Use the fightchatcontrol.eu email tool to make yourself heard
EU: We are not going to read your chats or look at your photos, we just stop the CP.
People: so how will you know what chats and photos contain CP?
EU: Just trust me bro…
Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected.
Uh-huh. And how do you search for something specific without decrypting everything first? This is fucking embarrassing.
Wasn’t the plan for the messenger to scan for explicit material before the messages were sent (and encrypted)?
I’m going off of a article by TechRadar, but essentially: yes. This isn’t about breaking encryption as I initially thought, though that seems to have been the goal when the same law was proposed (and rightfully rejected) in 2022. Rather, the new revision is about making encryption utterly pointless through the virtue of scanning all messages on your device, as you suggested. At least that’s my read on the situation.
Yup, that’s it.
And so, where is the problem?.. Your message is scanned. If it is illegitimate you can’t send it. What is the problem?
How will that initial scan take place? On your device, or sent to a server? Once you give the authorities that ability, will they stop at CSAM, or will they flag anti-israel content as well?
The government doesnt get to read every message I send and see if they deem it sendable or not. Thats the problem
If you think this would stop at CSAM then you’re naive.
These same people are at the same time taking away freedom of speech to support a genocide. How do I know they won’t scan for pro Palestine content?
They scanned your message and found you were critical of Israel, a team has been sent to your location to resolve the issue.
That’s a fair clarification but hardly meaningful, and arguably much worse.
“Only the thing we are searching for will be searched for”
How do you know if a message has that content without scanning all messages to begin with?
The fuck? Do they think we are stupid?
Do they think we are stupid?
They definitely do. And they are partly right, for the average person this is enough to stop worrying
The average person wasn’t even worried or indeed aware of this to begin with
I’m actually starting to think 25/7 monitoring of all digital communications is actually a good idea.
For politicians.
It’s the only way to sure they’re accountable to the public. This should be the trade off. You enter into politics and literally the only privacy you ever have is when you’re in the bathroom.
Every fart, sneeze, cough, every email you send, every text you send on a phone, website you visit, is public record.
They always use sex crimes and “the worst of the worst” as an excuse. Always. Then they come after political dissidents and the vulnerable.
The wording of that message wiggles around a lot. When you read it again, you realize there can be:
- almost every monitoring of online communications (just not ‘general’)
- all chat scanning (just no chat ‘control’)
- everything can be detected (just child abuse will be searched for AND detected)
- sneak peaking at everybody’s chats is ok. (But ‘detection orders’ need a thorough process)
This is the language of some one who knows is guilty
“do not read this comment”
The only way to know not to read it is to read it
They should just mandate that the child pornographers set the evil bit. It would save the EU leaders the trouble of learning how cryptography works.
Ok listen some of you will have to become politicians & get them life-imprisonment sentences
Yeah we all know that’s BS. “Child porn only” will become “anything illegal” which will become “whatever we want” and SL"with a warrant" will become “all the time”
The only way it will go indeed
they are gonna keep at it until it passes. the only way to stop this is deposing them.
Dictators never leave peacefully.
no, they don’t. though if it were that easy we wouldn’t need to worry that much about things like chat control.
I don’t see how we can stop it. If they don’t succeed this year, they will try the next, and if not next, they will try the year after until it works. How do we stop this? We can’t. Its like cancer. You can only slow the process down by being against them. Thats it :/ we all will be surveiled and there is nothing to stop it.
All we do as privacy advocates is to jump around. If one thing becomes illegal, we jump over to something else that provides privacy once again.
We are slowly becoming cashless, but new tech arrived and we started with crypto like monero. Once crypto is banned, we find different methods in staying anonymous or private :)
we depose them. they can’t try again next year if they are not in power. of course that’s easier said, but there is an out that’s historically effective against abuse of power.
solutions like alternative apps and oses and techniques are always an individualistic bandaid that should be thought of as temporary until they close the loophole.
Why doesn’t any group of people get that it’s OUR devices abd not THEIRS.
It will just start with those, then slowly increase their right
Congrats Commission, you shot yourself once again in the foot.
And this fight will have to be won every single time, while they have to win just once and we’ll never get it back ?
It’s obviously a rigged game and such a game can only be won by cheating. Cheating so hard no one ever dares to play this game again.So, maybe it’s time to draw post-Europe borders now that european governance has become malignant, I don’t believe it can be saved. This always ends up happenning so might as well hit that reset button early while they’re not seeing it coming this early.
