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    2 months ago

    In my time we started most shows in the middle of whatever season was on when you stumbled them while flipping channels.

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      But also shows were made for syndication, so most didn’t have overarching plotlines and it didn’t matter what order you watched them in. There might be one (heavily advertised) event a season that actually affected anything, and it’d be something like two characters getting married rather than something that fundamentally shook up the concept.

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      Nah, start from the beginning. When I introduced my partner to star trek, she loved the first TNG seasons, despite recognizing that the latter are better

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        The first episode also introduces every character.

        It would be a miss for new watchers to skip it, even if some of you don’t like the episode.

        The dish separation was what made me understand there was a lot more to Star Trek then I first thought and made me continue watching, even if it didn’t happen again.

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      A few of my very favorite episodes of Star Trek ever are in season 1, though. I wouldn’t skip it entirely!

      • s01e11 Haven, because I love Lwaxana when she’s being mischievous
      • s01e13 Datalore, for Spiner in his early glory
      • s01e18 Home Soil, for a decent “murder mystery”
      • s01e22 Symbiosis, seriously one of the best episodes of the whole show with a lesson on why the Prime Directive is important, plenty of Crusher vs Picard moral discussions, and an attempt at a sympathetic view on drug addiction (though a dated one now)
    • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Even though I think DS9 is objectively better than TNG, I would still recommend TNG to get into it, as the more exploration focus should appeal to a wider audience.

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      2 months ago

      Picard is easily the worst serious ever. And I don’t mean it in the sense of “place to start” but in the sense of “worst serious period”. Discovery is great tho.

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        it’s an odd series for sure. I did enjoy the last season purely for the Enterprise-D returning. But still it’s weird how they kinda just tossed Wes aside as if he didn’t exist because THIS Crusher son was “WAY more important”. It’s like hey Beverly, you have another kid. one who at this point is WAY more powerful than your hybrid Borg thingy Son.

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        As a non-Trekkie, I found it enjoyable enough… ditto with Discovery (at least the first season).

        I just picked those two because they were literally my introduction to Star Trek TV series, and I know both are quite divisive in the community…

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          Funny, I liked the later seasons of Discovery much more when it grew its beard grew its dreadlocks.

          Picard has it’s moments but a ton of fan service that wouldn’t work for non-Trekkie’s I would assume but maybe that’s why you didn’t care about it and wasn’t bothered. It’s “let’s take the heroes of these series and let them fight against these villains from these series and the storyline from there”. Maybe it works even better if you’re new to all of them.

          I wouldn’t even say it’s bad but all the other series are better, so have fun discovering the other series 😉

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    2 months ago

    Lost, confused, disturbed, unsettled, baffled and eve a bit turned on.

    This could describe every decon scene in ENT.

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      I loved when they got tired of putting the eye candy in those scenes and started throwing in random characters like Porthos.

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    2 months ago

    The Star Trek universe is based on the premise that a peaceful, united mankind is acting as a benevolent, civilized partner and friend of all alien species.

    But let’s be honest, we all know we would behave like the aliens from Independence Day - mercilessly conquering and harvesting alien worlds and spreading destruction across the universe.

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      Star Trek also assumes a truly post-scarcity society in which capitalism plays, at most, a small part.

      One of the problems we face in assessing human potential is that we pretty much only know of humans since the Neolithic, when authority and wealth became increasingly centralized. In the Star Trek universe, while authority remains hierarchical and highly centralized, economic inequality is somewhat diminished. These are different sets of social premises and the outcomes might vary.

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        Indeed, outcomes may vary. I remember growing up in West Berlin in the 1980s, surrounded by the GDR - a highly centralized and hierarchical society with diminished economic inequality. We frequently got time off school because the smog was so bad.

        I’m very skeptical if a human society is possible which does not lead to over-exploitation of resources and recklessness towards discovered species on alien planets. I also doubt that the technology required for space travel could be developed in a sustainable manner in the first place.

        I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a Star Trek type society which was somehow able find a solution for this problem, but I fear it’s highly unlikely. Ultimately, we’re selfish apes. That’s why I find the Star Trek premise unrealistic.

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      But let’s be honest, we all know we would behave like the aliens from Independence Day - mercilessly conquering and harvesting alien worlds and spreading destruction across the universe.

      This would be true, except that Star Trek assumes a truly post-scarcity world where nobody needs to harvest alien worlds. Hell, the capitalists (Ferengi) are depicted as ruthless and conniving (oftentimes outright cartoonish) villains most of the time.

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        the capitalists (Ferengi) are depicted as ruthless and conniving (oftentimes outright cartoonish) villains

        And once again, reality lets out a “here we go again” sigh and says “fine… hold my beer.”

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    What?

    You just start at the beginning of one of the series.

    If you like new stuff: Strange New Worlds

    If you like animation: Lower Decks

    If you enjoy older series: The Next Generation (+Deep Space9 + Voyager)

    If you enjoy really old series: The Original Series

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      What?

      You just start at Star Trek The Animated Series

      If you like new stuff: Star Trek The Animated Series

      If you like animation: Star Trek The Animated Series

      If you enjoy older series: Star Trek The Animated Series

      If you enjoy really old series: Star Trek The Animated Series

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      Yeah, I started with TNG a year or two ago. I’m now halfway through season 4 of Voyager, just from watching an episode every few days whenever I have time. Eventually I’ll move on to DS9, before digging into the movies (which I have simultaneously heard are incredible and hot garbage, depending on the individual user’s preferences) and the newer stuff.

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        The movies alternate between incredible and hot garbage, but all of them are worth watching.

  • nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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    Start with TOS and if you find it too hard to watch start with TNG and if you find the first bit of TNG too hard to watch you can skip ahead of you really want to I guess, but I find it all worth watching.

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    i am a very late bloomer to ST. i watches TOS and loved it; i startrd up TNG about a month ago.

    im in season 3 episode 4 and councillor troy hasnt died yet. i hate her with a fiery passion for ruining what seems to be a really good show. my friends have confirmed she doesnt die and told me to leave TNG behind and move on to DS9.

    i guess i get DS9 tomorrow.

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      I’m going to be the serpent in the grass and say give Babylon 5 a go before DS9. The first season will feel slow because the show is structured like a novel; exposition, rising action, climax, falling action, conclusion. There are small things like newspaper headers that hint towards future developments, and every main character undergoes a major arc. I enjoy DS9, but it’s never felt as cohesive as B5 to me. You may throw your stones now.

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      It’s such a weird choice to put “ships councilor” on the bridge.

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        i can imagine the unimportant meetings that werent part of the show… you know like routine runs.

        “i am captain jean luc picard of the USS Enterprise. to my right is my number one, commander riker. to my front left is my number two, lieutenant commander data… as opposed to this random lady sitting next to me who has nothing to do with leadership on the bridge.”

        [everyone glares at troy]

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      Her character does get a bit better in later seasons. She even starts wearing a real uniform.

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    Wow, Devils Due is like the second episode I watched (first was Silicon Avatar) and I remember enjoying the ending where Picard mimics all her tricks before telling her to fuck off.

    In hindsight easily a notgreat episode, but I remember it fondly.

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    This is incorrect.

    If you are new at this point “Lower decks” is the right place to start.

    After that you can go to any series, even if TNG is the right next step. You can pick anything.

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      Lower decks has soooo many references to the other series I feel like it would be a very confusing place to start.

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        The references would be lost, but it is still very enjoyable new content for new watchers.

        They can come back to Lower Decks after watching everything else to get the references.

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      I think either Strange New Worlds or Lower Decks is a good starting point for someone new to Trek. I think I’d recommend SNW over Lower Decks though just because the number of references in Lower Decks to other Star Trek media is pretty high.

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        The number of references and in jokes was what made me give SNW and eventually TNG a chance personally. I jist really wanted to know wtf was up with the Koala

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    I have never watched a single star trek thing and the only knowledge I have about it comes from you guy’s memes

    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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      I never was into it, always a Star Wars kid. My gf dad had episodes of TAS going one day and I got sucked into it to my surprise, i didnt think I’d appreciate a show that I always saw as old and kinda cheesy. I watched a few more episodes and really liked it. He did me a big favour, told me even if I wasn’t going to watch it all at once, he said watch space seed the episode, then go watch the first two movies. What an epic, you get a great introduction to Star Trek and one of its greatest villains Khan.

      After that I tired TNG but didnt like it, don’t like most Star Trek, I always go back to the original. I did watch discovery with my wife and it was ok, but strange new worlds is my second favourite now.