• FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    Finland? Fuckign ukraine?

    This is peak “everyobe is Bad, ukrainians are Nazis!! 1!!, russia is greatest!! 1!”

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      Uh, Ukraine is literally a dictatorship that doesn’t have elections and is being bombed into dirt. I wouldn’t want to live there. It actually is also pretty full of Nazis, they’re just weird Nazis who during the initial occupation of Ukraine decided the Germans were generally right, but actually Ukrainians were the closest race to the OG lilly white Aryans. I’ve seen paintings of historical Ukrainian Nazis on the wall behind Ukrainians being interviewed on PBS Newshour. Russia should abide by the internationally legal borders (like Israel) and stop murdering civilians en masse (like Israel) but the original Nazis killing ethnic Russians pretext for its invasion is no more fake than October 7th, which in no way is a defense of either evil state or their actions in retaliation.

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        Who was leading the operation? Not Poles - GERMANS, no Pole would invent and finalize such idea. You talk about repressioned collaborators (also COLLABORATORS, not the whole hq or country) you know nothing yet you wanna blame the good guys. I’m curious if you would not collaborate while having a pistol pointed on your head. Think before writing cuz you just gave me example of GERMAN operation.

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          Although historians say the Holy Cross Mountains Brigade collaborated with the Nazis, a representative of the veterans, Jan Józef Kasprzyk, sought to deny such a link.

          Kasprzyk described the claims of collaboration as a product of postwar communist propaganda meant to smear the unit’s legacy.

          The official rehabilitation of the brigade began when Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki honored its members at a cemetery in Munich in February 2018.

          Morawiecki asserted at a news conference the same day that there were some “Jewish perpetrators” of the Holocaust.

          https://apnews.com/general-news-9eb9502f00724a50aeb33082ff7ce692

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            Hahaha you self-destroyed any of your arguments. You are basically giving me a shit press which collaborated with nazis blaming Poles to collaborate with nazis. You better watch yourself at what you feed your brain with, cuz this shit is definitely not good. I have a feeling that I’m talking to flat-earther, no joke. They did not even link ANY source, none, they just manipulated the reality to make you believe what you believe. Crazy. Here, just see the “controversies” tab: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press

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              You’re demonstrating the effect of nationalism to the human brain. I don’t really care that you’re aligned with Polish nationalist historical revisionists (far right obviously), I’m adding the context for everyone else to see.

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                You are telling the lies, not adding the context. What you’re telling here should be a shame for you if you have anything to do with Poland. Even worse if you are a Polish leftist, as you only give the reasons to never ever vote for left, cuz thats what we gonna get. Lies, covered in anti-national stories. Let’s repeat then: Poland has NOTHING to do with genocides, its ukrainians who did the grnocide to Poles, its germans who did the genocide to jews AND Poles, and you won’t change the truth. Anyone here wondering who is right will look up the wikipedia and see what I’m telling clearly aligns with facts - while your opinion is based on 1 publication of nazi press. Shame on you.

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      Repressions on Ukrainians during 1930’s could - and should - be considered genocidal. Then there’s the rest of Kresy with forced polonisation of Belarusians and tutejszych

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    Who likes any of them? Name me a state that isn’t dripping with blood. Name me a national leader who isn’t guilty.

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    Knowing the template, this actually does make sense. The first three are ones where it’s super clear that you’d have to be quite stupid to fall for it. Then the fourth one, a lot of people wouldn’t immediately realise you have to be stupid to fall for them, but it’s stupid to fall for them nonetheless.

    True to the meme format, the point isn’t that it isn’t stupid to fall for the first three. It clearly is. But falling for the fourth one is stupid, too.

    (though I must admit, the selection of some of the examples is pretty weird)

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    You trying OP, you trying. Hovever the “everyone is bad” is like the first step of ruzzian propaganda so the fact that you need to use it makes me glad. It means that their propaganda needs to go back to step 1 and that’s a good sign

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      The meme isn’t trying to say “eveyone is bad.” It’s showing the hypocrisy of liberals when they make up and believe false bad things about AES states but simp for their country when their country actually does those same things. For example when westerns cry “China is imperialist” (reading about China’s socio-economic system would show that’s not true) but ignore/support their country actually exploiting the Global South.