• katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    kinda beyond frustrating that there’s more outrage over a comedian who got his start through an absurdly sexist and misogynistic show than there was over the win or lose episode that was already filmed and ready and changed the character into a cis character.

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      I think the difference there is that there’s no evidence of government meddling and intervention. Whereas here, there is.

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        I disagree - the US government, at least the conservative side, heavily curated their followers against a significant number of freedoms associated with queer and BIPOC folk. They played a very large role in creating the harmful, hateful aura that is the reason for US corporations’ erasure of those types of people. Cultivating hatred, manifesting as misogyny / homophobia / racism / nationalism / polarisation, is one of the most famous traits of US national and/or local leadership. They are responsible for inspiring other countries to persecute innocent people.

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          You can argue the cultural changes and political changes of government caused Disney to make a decision out of an abundance of caution - but there was no effort, no phone call, no threat of retaliation to Disney if they chose to air that episode. This is not the same as the Kimmel situation.

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            No, it’s not. While Disney refuses to be transparent, I’m sure the audience for Win or Lose was far lower than Kimmel’s 2m per episode

            However

            The lack of action with WoL was partially caused by the political influence. A systemic issue permeates every aspect of life.

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      Man, did you miss the point of The Man Show. It was satire, and the hosts were the joke.

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        Also not where he got his start. Kimmel was on the Win Ben Steins Money game show before The Man Show and radio before that.

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        see, you say that, but I don’t think you realize how stupid Americans are.

        My stepfather did not think it was satire, or a joke. He loved that show and thought the jokes were hilarious. “woman be shopping” etc. I hated that man.

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          I know very well how stupid we are. Just look at The Colbert Report.

          But because it wasn’t received as satire doesn’t make it not satire.

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            That’s kinda the whole point of satire. Fools arent supposed to get the joke, because they ARE the joke.