I’m a fan of high speed rail too, but I also wonder if it’s ever going to be comparable to flying for long distances like this.
Like, even traveling in a direct line on a plane (which averages 600mph, or 2-3x the average speed of high speed rail), it still takes 6 hours from NYC to LA.
Anything under about 500 km is better by train. While the train is slower, once you count getting to and from the airport and in and out of the plane, you’re still faster overall. Above that the plane will usually be faster. If you take the environmental cost into account, the train always wins.
Honestly, if trains were 1/3 as fast as planes, I’d take them.
My family lives about 800 miles away (by car, less as the crow flies), which takes about 14 hours by car, 2.5 hours by plane, and 45 hours by train (36 moving time). To be fair, it covers more ground (almost 2x at ~1400 miles), but driving that same roite would only be ~22 hours. To make up for the extra distance, the train would need to go about twice the speed, so 120-150mph, to match driving, which is completely feasible. If I could do that trip via train in one day, I’d do it vs taking the plane.
I don’t think expecting trains to go 2-3x the speed of cars is unreasonable. I’d still probably take an airplane for longer trips, but anything within 1k miles or so should be reasonable to do by rail.
Although it is true the definitions for high speed trains mention 200km/h, it is good to know many lines exist with 300km/h or above as speed limit (and the speed limit is regularly driven on these lines).
High speed rail is enough for medium size trips that I would normally drive. When driving isn’t feasible (more than 800 miles or so), I’d need faster than typical high speed rail.
With the distances provided, flying would be faster than high speed rail. Even if there was a maglev train from NYC to Miami, I think the flight would still be faster unless there were major delays flying out.
Fun fact: This scene is from the aftermath of the first and only attack by the devil named Gun, who stands in as a metaphor for gun violence (not very subtle, but that’s the point)
Lol, in the manga I think it was crazier than this. There was just an immense scar across an entire continent in a straight line, as if a mile wide bulldozer just drove across everything. I don’t remember if it targeted a government official or not, but I vaguely
spoiler
remember control planting a piece of the gun devil as a lure.
could have this if politicians didn’t fight high speed rail so much
I’m a fan of high speed rail too, but I also wonder if it’s ever going to be comparable to flying for long distances like this.
Like, even traveling in a direct line on a plane (which averages 600mph, or 2-3x the average speed of high speed rail), it still takes 6 hours from NYC to LA.
Anything under about 500 km is better by train. While the train is slower, once you count getting to and from the airport and in and out of the plane, you’re still faster overall. Above that the plane will usually be faster. If you take the environmental cost into account, the train always wins.
There’s a direct train from Beijing to Kunming that’s 11 hours, 1700 miles.
NYC to LA would be ~50% more, so you could do a high-speed sleeper.
But no, at that distance, flying is probably better.
As soon as Elon Musk builds his Hyperloop, we’ll be traveling from NYC to LA in just a few hours. /s
I’ve never considered myself claustrophobic, but the mockups of Hyperloop I’ve seen freak me out a little.
Not claustrophobic at all, but the idea of entering that engineering system has me bugging.
Honestly, if trains were 1/3 as fast as planes, I’d take them.
My family lives about 800 miles away (by car, less as the crow flies), which takes about 14 hours by car, 2.5 hours by plane, and 45 hours by train (36 moving time). To be fair, it covers more ground (almost 2x at ~1400 miles), but driving that same roite would only be ~22 hours. To make up for the extra distance, the train would need to go about twice the speed, so 120-150mph, to match driving, which is completely feasible. If I could do that trip via train in one day, I’d do it vs taking the plane.
I don’t think expecting trains to go 2-3x the speed of cars is unreasonable. I’d still probably take an airplane for longer trips, but anything within 1k miles or so should be reasonable to do by rail.
commercial planes are a bit subsonic, you’re asking for 300-400 km/h trains. high speed rail is like 200 km/h
Although it is true the definitions for high speed trains mention 200km/h, it is good to know many lines exist with 300km/h or above as speed limit (and the speed limit is regularly driven on these lines).
High speed rail is enough for medium size trips that I would normally drive. When driving isn’t feasible (more than 800 miles or so), I’d need faster than typical high speed rail.
There is a point where planes become the better choice and transcontinental is definitely one of them.
With the distances provided, flying would be faster than high speed rail. Even if there was a maglev train from NYC to Miami, I think the flight would still be faster unless there were major delays flying out.
Those trains would have to be supersonic though, to do it all in one day.
You’d need a train going 1100mph (3x faster than the fastest current train) to make Miami to Las Vegas in 2 hours, but sure.
For reference that’s like 1.5 times the speed of sound at sea level.
Oh look dear, the mach 1.5 train is going by again.
More like you would have your eardrums sent into a different dimension.
That looks like a fun gif, where’d ya get it?
It’s from an anime called Chainsaw Man.
Fun fact: This scene is from the aftermath of the first and only attack by the devil named Gun, who stands in as a metaphor for gun violence (not very subtle, but that’s the point)
Lol, in the manga I think it was crazier than this. There was just an immense scar across an entire continent in a straight line, as if a mile wide bulldozer just drove across everything. I don’t remember if it targeted a government official or not, but I vaguely
spoiler
remember control planting a piece of the gun devil as a lure.