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I would only support Gavin Newsom’s candidacy if he became homeless for a few years and demonstrated personal growth and a capacity for empathy from the experience.
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I’m exaggerating, but it’d take a lot for me to become convinced he is a suitable candidate in our dire situation.
Best he can do is Starting from Zero and becoming a millionaire in a year to show you anyone can do it (as long as they have a clean bill of health and a college education and connections from their time in office and…)
“See!? It’s easy, the American Dream™ is alive and well!”
As I recall, the one guy that tried to do that used personal connections he had made before “giving up all his wealth”, and he still couldn’t make it a year because it was affecting his health or something.
I’d settle for him not being a major shareholder for the power utility that he’s supposed to be protecting his citizens from. In completely unrelated news, we pay the highest energy prices on planet earth. What a coincidence.
So unless there is a perfect Democrat candidate you prefer letting Trump have his third term?
At this point in time, I feel it’d be healthy for us to be expressing what policies we’d like to see a candidate supporting instead of giving a moderate (with effectively no vision for a more desirable future) our support by default.
It isn’t a “purity test” to ask for better policies. But don’t worry, I’m sure most Americans will pick the candidate that is chosen for them.
Yeah I’m not convinced of Newsom either. Don’t think he’s really shown that he’s free of corporate interests and will fight for the working class.
Gavin Newsom is not the answer to Donald Trump. He’s a lackey to big corporations.
AOC on the other hand
Hahahahahaha
Until we get rid of capitalism nothing will change.
So do nothing at all? Smart.
Right, do nothing for incremental change, it’s all or nothing and don’t try.
Maybe read reform or revolution. It’s an easy read.
You mean totally fine with genocide in Palestine if that’s what her handlers tell her AOC? That one?
She’s divisive enough to divide the democrat party again and let another ahitlick fascist like this through.
Like I cannot harp enough on super callous fascist sexist nazi POTUS, but if Hillary had sat the fuck down in 2016 we would’ve never had this goddamn problem. Shame on the entire DNC for letting it happen and shutting out Bernie, but Hillary had the personal power to let it happen and refused.
You won’t have free elections anymore, so all these conjectures aren’t even in question.
Best wishes to Gamers Nexus, he definitely deserves to be president.
Last thing I need is for politics to become the GN v. LMG rivalry. Steve would be a good president if I hear one more “he should have just talked to Linus” I’m gonna lose my mind.
LMG
Light Machine Gun?
Linus media group. It’s a whole thing for nerds lol.
That’s how I know anyway.
Is it for needs?
Or more like occasional enthusiast-adjacent folk (a bit more towards pop)?(I’m actually asking, never really followed anything they do, but all the headlines I saw seemed very much like “watch it for fun, not info” type of deals.)
I am aware they are fairly giant (revenue) for what they do tho.
These 20s sure do be roaring
Can we not be promoting this guy?
This is a distraction from better candidates.
Haven’t you learnt anything from your past losses?
Such as that the news cycles hype people like gavin who go on to lose the presidential election?
If you want newsom, it’s clear you haven’t.
Yes, that’s why we should stop simping for the establishment.
It’s absolutely pathetic watching you guys line up to sell yourselves out years before the election.
Canwe please promote a better candidate?
Well, we could promote AOC.
Except centrists are saying women can’t win. Because they’re willing to hold back all women to prevent AOC in particular from running.
No, people keep saying shitheads like Kamala can’t win because her platform was the fucking same as 2004 George W Bush.
People keep saying that because it’s true. Centrists who don’t want AOC to be able to run have pretended to take a different lesson. Once which conveniently means that AOC wouldn’t be able to run.
centrists are saying women can’t win
Strange that they didn’t see this about the first two women candidates
Yes, women can’t do the thing they do everywhere else in the world.
Do we even have one? I suspect we don’t 🫠
Do you even have one?
If somebody has an idea I’m all ears.
Please stop doing the DNC’s work for them by amplifying Gavin Newsom. We need real change in this country, not a return to the status quo.
Thank the gods someone realizes this.
Newsom is a solid status quo maintainer with 2 or 3 senior edgelord staff.
We need to win an election. 2026 is not going to be a blue wave. 2028 IDK even what’s going to happen but if we aren’t running a serious candidate, it’s over. There is no time for “let’s find someone that passes every single group’s tests.” This is time for “getting our shit together.”
Bill Clinton said it right, Republicans fall in line, Democrats fall in love. Y’all need to stop thinking this a budding romance. It’s not. It’s the business of recapturing middle America’s vote to have enough of a party to DO things like educate voters, which is not happening at all right now, which can then turn into the social change we want. Trying to get out the door with ideologically out-of-touch positions, like letting homeless people encamp anywhere they want, makes middle America turn away from us. It sets us up for failure, and then NO ONE helps the homeless.
If you want to capture middle America’s vote then run progressive candidates with an economic populist platform. That’s not out of touch, it’s a proven strategy. The DNC leadership is more interested in keeping the support of their wealthy donors than in recapturing middle America’s vote. They would rather lose elections than lose their donors.
There’s growing evidence Democrats do better when they moderate (get closer to average American’s viewpoints) than go extreme progressive (go away from average American’s viewpoints). Again people are turned off by extreme positions. So many people voted for Trump, or didn’t vote for Dems, because they believe we sponsor sex change surgery for minors, or paying for immigrants’ sex changes (I know it’s called gender reassignment surgery, but this is how middle America talks about it).
How the hell is going more progressive, spending more time talking about trans girls playing sports (a wildly unpopular topic), vs going in with a hard-hammered message of economic stability, which is what people keep voting for?
Whenever I hear leftists talking about going more progressive, I wonder if you’ve spent any time wandering around the flyover states, talking to the average farmer or factory worker, because they decide the president, not us. We are out of touch with them, and nothing we are doing is drawing them in - only turning them off.
Here’s a list of progressive policies that the Democratic leadership have made taboo and their approval ratings:
Medicare for All shows majority support in nearly every poll.
55% support raising the federal minimum wage.
An overwhelming majority support ending citizens united.
59% support the green new deal.
79% support raising taxes on the rich.
These numbers vary by single digit percentage points from poll to poll, not enough to change the conclusion - that progressive policy is overwhelmingly popular - which is why it’s so frustrating that you’re defending Democrats shying away from those policies to appeal to a mythical “moderate.” Zohran Mamdani’s campaign shows you don’t have to back down on trans rights to run an economics focused campaign, and it’s the progressive economic policies that are the most popular. When people hear Democrats hem and haw about “economic stability” they hear “we’re not going to change anything about the system that’s fucking you with a rusty tire iron.”
Did they vote for Trump because he was the centrist position? Did pandering towards center work for Kamala? Is “spending more time talking about trans girls playing sports” really what Schmoo meant when he was talking about progressive/left economic populism? People like Zohran seem very popular right now. They aren’t centrist.
My own father is quiet about his political views for all that I’ve known him. He is a boomer. He detests Trump, but it did come up in conversation he actually LIKED Kamala’s efforts to shake hands with Liz Cheney and the like. So I at least know the demographic the Democrats attempt to cater to is not non-existent.
most of them are DINOs anyways, they are republicans but would not be electable as an R in modern, unless they switch thier parties after being elected as a D.
The Democrats and DNC are doing everything in their power to NOT win elections though. They refuse to care about candidates like Omar Fateh, Abdul El-Sayed, Graham Platner, and Kat Abughazaleh. Their consultant class time and again wants them to run lukewarm candidates that are backed by AIPAC.
We need real change. Leftist economic populism will be how the Dems & DNC pick up momentum, after which social populism will be a slam dunk.
I don’t agree with the first but totally do the second. The Republican party fell in line and bridge divides across factions for the purpose of winning the government. Dems can’t seem to get past their ideological purity tests. Do you really think classic Republicans like maga? Fuck no they don’t, but they like winning and winning keeps them in power.
You have to win to run a government and shape it how you please. Period.
You don’t want the guy who praised Kirk and Bannon and who does photo ops removing homeless people from their camps? Picky voter /s
Absolutely insane that America has been taught to demand all the worst parts of certain communist ideology without any possible benefit under the guise of protectionism just so a bunch of white me can don’t have to confront the fact they have no personality or empathy and money doesn’t fill that hole
demand all the worst parts of certain communist ideology
Public health care, education, and modern mass transit?
just so a bunch of white me can don’t have to confront the fact they have no personality or empathy and money doesn’t fill that hole
Goes a bit deeper. This isn’t simply ego driven, it’s a historically manifest class conflict dating back centuries.
It isn’t limited to “White men”, either. You’ll find the class conflict echoing from El Salvador to the Philippines to Indian to Israel.
wordt parts of certain communist ideology
Oh no, I was talking about the “silent majority” wanting a leader who sells simple answers to complex problems, a national identity on the basis of a previous “great era” and bloodline as well as millions dying in famine
And I know leaders like Pol Pot and Mao haven’t been trying to save white men. It just seems in America’s case, that the main demographic that the right wing is chasing is a bunch of white men who love acting as victims in terms of having no spouse, job or hobbies.
Goddamn costume ball while the Titanic sinks.
The system won’t be the tiniest bit less corrupt with newsom at the wheel.
I’m not a Newsom fan but this is just an absurd thing to say. It would be a feat for anyone to be as corrupt as Trump. If you wrote a book with a villain as openly corrupt as Trump, it would be panned as unrealistic.
The clearly said the system wouldn’t be less corrupt. It just so happens that the system isn’t corrupt enough for the pedo president so he’s even working outside of the already rampantly corrupt system
If you wrote a book with a villain as openly corrupt as Trump, it would be panned as unrealistic.
Now I kinda want a story where the villain commits all of Trump’s crimes and keeps getting away with it, but has absolutely nobody cheering for him.
It would feel like those videos of sitcoms with the laugh tracks removed. Just an uneasy moment of tension after every action, like they’re in a completely different reality.
Looks like they NAILED the racial discrimination part.
They SLAMed it.
The rhetoric in here…
People, third parties will kill your chances. That is a fact. This is true in all first past the post/winner takes all systems, but especially the US one where the parties can just sandbag each other and do nothing, meaning the conservatives win.
Secondly, you may like to make some guillotine memes, but lets be real. You’re not that guy. You aren’t planning some secret spec ops assassination of the crew behind trump. You didn’t do it for any of the lead up, and you won’t do it now.
Thirdly, if your progressive sweetheart (and believe me, I’d prefer them too), got into the white house, you very same people would quickly get angry at them and say they aren’t doing enough because you completely fail to understand your own system and this very next point.
If you actually want to see a turn around, it will be long, boring, slow and unfun. You will not get big results in 1, 2, or even 3 terms. It doesn’t work that way.
You not only have to keep democrats winning, but also have to slowly flip enough seats to progressive politicians within said party that they significantly change the parties voting patterns and leadership. Its not just that either, you have to get enough of the population to vote for people, a lot of whom you will hate, that they get a super majority in the senate, at the same time as they have a simple majority in the house, and at the same time as they have a president. Only when all 3 of those things happen simultaneously could you possibly even hope to have the types of changes we all want to see implemented implemented.
There is no other way within this system. Its built to be slow and has more inertia than you can imagine. You’re not about to uproot that system, so you have to understand it, even if you don’t like it.
If you actually want to see a turn around, it will be long, boring, slow and unfun
What a stupid world.
What the hell is a Great Gatsby party? A 1920s themed party?
No blacks.
And a green strobe light
I recommend you read the book, old sport. I think you’ll find it… Enlightening.
Are men supposed to be wearing caps indoors, or seated at the table? I thought you were supposed to take your hat off.
Not when you’re rich enough that no-one can talk back and you have a bald spot you’re shamed of.
I don’t belieeeeve it
But Gavin… While the country was under stay-at-home and isolate orders during COVID, you hosted a party.
