At this point in time, anyone left on the platform formerly known as Twitter, is either a fascist, or at least think that fascism isn’t that big a deal.
Because, as an example, some very important services communicate solely through Xitter. Emergency alerts, fire depart, governmental bodies, etc. Do I despise that? Yes. Do I ask them to move? Yes. Are they? Hell no.
For a lot of marginalized people Twitter was a place to escape to and find like-minded people, I can see how it’s hard to make a new place feel as homely. Most of us here left another site because we didn’t agree with the leadership so it’s a very biased group, “just do the same thing we did”. Not everyone is in as privileged of a position though and it might be way harder for them to leave than you can imagine, especially if they’re addicted to it.
Bullshit. I have an account on X since it was Twitter. No post, no followed people, no follower. I don’t use my timeline. I just use it because many dealers use it as a channel to communicate with customers through DM. I’m a a fascist?
Stats don’t care if you are or aren’t, you are +1 to the equity that Twitter uses to get money through advertisers, which gets funnelled to Elon and his interests, and now Trump. This leads to reducing your overall opportunities through fascism that contribute to you finding comfort in what your dealer is supplying you. Quit hitting yourself.
I actually agree with you on the Amazon/Youtube/Meta thing and I’m trying my hardest to stop using all those companies, but I think another point here is that Twitter is much more directly connected to fascism, given that it’s owned by the guy who just spent a week crashing the post-election party at Mar-A-Lago.
That’s something I hate in place like these, lately: you’re either a good boy if you do what I think it’s right or you’re an evil fascist if you dare not to follow “the right path”. People seem to forget that there are a lot of shades of grey between black and white.
The fasces is a bundle with an axe - anyone outside the bundle gets chopped. That’s actual fascism. It’s what both the far left and far right proscribe and (correctly) accuse the other of doing.
Forget sides, forget the bundle. Just be a good person and keep your own ethical code.
That’s just not true. My mate uses it to follow music bands they like. The problem we have with X is that everybody uses it so you have to use it you wanna stay in the loop. I don’t use I myself but i can understand why people still do.
That is just not true. I hate twitter but i still use it. I am autistic and follow very specific things on it and while i also use mastodon and bluesky, there is barely anyone that has the same current interests as i do.
I don’t like it but i also don’t completely want to alienate myself from people i enjoy talking to and seeing their stuff. I try to follow them all on mastodon and bluesky if they have an account there, but not everyone has that.
I have all ads blocked and purely use it for my hobbies.
So suggesting that makes me a fascist is absolutely ridiculous. We are trying to move to another platform but its not as easy as you make it out to be.
Same as Lemmy. I love Lemmy. BUT there are things that just so not exist here yet that do exist on reddit.
And i have no interest in making a community for it either as i don’t want to moderate anything.
Yes, that’s why I wrote that I’m here. But it’s not happening. Maybe something will change in the future, but at this moment there is nothing anyone can to do, to move these communities.
If you are a major contributor in a niche community, you can publicize your move with info of how to keep following you and syndicate links to your content on your desired platform for a set time then leave. On your desired platform let followers from Xitter know how to follow you (email, rss, bridgy, etc) if they don’t want to join your desired platform.
If you are mostly a content consumer or have FOMO, use a bridge not an account. DM all the friends you want to keep of where to find you then leave. Bird.makeup is a great Xitter bridge for the fedi.
In either case, there isn’t a reason to keep am account there.
Except everything is related to politics. The price of the bread is politics. The roads made, politics too. Having to pay the doctor or not, politics.
Politics is not “what the politicians do”. It’s “affairs of the cities”, from Ancient Greek πολιτικά (politiká). And everything that affects more than one person is an “affair of the cities”.
Seriously? It’s a social media site that openly support and spread right-wing misinformation, how is that comparable?
People have no say in where they where born, and not all have the luxury of packing everything and move to another country, supporting a social media site is a choice.
I didn’t say people born here I said living. so all the people that have moved here willingly support bombing and invading since they CHOSE to live here got it
As a third party I don’t think we should blame America for the genocide in Gaza. We should blame Israel. We are all complicit (and way worse of course being a sponsor) by not calling it out.
At this point in time, anyone left on the platform formerly known as Twitter, is either a fascist, or at least think that fascism isn’t that big a deal.
I know a lot of people still on twitter who ate firmly against fascism. I don’t know why they’re still on there though.
Because, as an example, some very important services communicate solely through Xitter. Emergency alerts, fire depart, governmental bodies, etc. Do I despise that? Yes. Do I ask them to move? Yes. Are they? Hell no.
Not while you are showing them you are still on there.
For a lot of marginalized people Twitter was a place to escape to and find like-minded people, I can see how it’s hard to make a new place feel as homely. Most of us here left another site because we didn’t agree with the leadership so it’s a very biased group, “just do the same thing we did”. Not everyone is in as privileged of a position though and it might be way harder for them to leave than you can imagine, especially if they’re addicted to it.
“I can fix him”
Bullshit. I have an account on X since it was Twitter. No post, no followed people, no follower. I don’t use my timeline. I just use it because many dealers use it as a channel to communicate with customers through DM. I’m a a fascist?
Stats don’t care if you are or aren’t, you are +1 to the equity that Twitter uses to get money through advertisers, which gets funnelled to Elon and his interests, and now Trump. This leads to reducing your overall opportunities through fascism that contribute to you finding comfort in what your dealer is supplying you. Quit hitting yourself.
Hope every single people on this thread quit using Amazon/Youtube and anything Meta for vey similar reasons. I’m waiting.
I actually agree with you on the Amazon/Youtube/Meta thing and I’m trying my hardest to stop using all those companies, but I think another point here is that Twitter is much more directly connected to fascism, given that it’s owned by the guy who just spent a week crashing the post-election party at Mar-A-Lago.
No but apparently you don’t think that it is that big of a deal?
Here we go…
Not really
That’s something I hate in place like these, lately: you’re either a good boy if you do what I think it’s right or you’re an evil fascist if you dare not to follow “the right path”. People seem to forget that there are a lot of shades of grey between black and white.
It’s actual fascism.
Not the modern made up diatribe about fascism.
The fasces is a bundle with an axe - anyone outside the bundle gets chopped. That’s actual fascism. It’s what both the far left and far right proscribe and (correctly) accuse the other of doing.
Forget sides, forget the bundle. Just be a good person and keep your own ethical code.
Thank you. You seem to understand what I mean.
You really should encourage your contacts to use more secure channels than Twitter dms, especially for illicit behavior.
Read again, carefully, what I wrote, please.
That’s just not true. My mate uses it to follow music bands they like. The problem we have with X is that everybody uses it so you have to use it you wanna stay in the loop. I don’t use I myself but i can understand why people still do.
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I don’t see how that’s relevant to be honest. Twitter users didn’t choose for Musk to be in charge, and I’m sure a lot remaining users hate him.
I said I don’t use twitter, what’s your point ?
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That is just not true. I hate twitter but i still use it. I am autistic and follow very specific things on it and while i also use mastodon and bluesky, there is barely anyone that has the same current interests as i do.
I don’t like it but i also don’t completely want to alienate myself from people i enjoy talking to and seeing their stuff. I try to follow them all on mastodon and bluesky if they have an account there, but not everyone has that.
I have all ads blocked and purely use it for my hobbies. So suggesting that makes me a fascist is absolutely ridiculous. We are trying to move to another platform but its not as easy as you make it out to be.
Same as Lemmy. I love Lemmy. BUT there are things that just so not exist here yet that do exist on reddit. And i have no interest in making a community for it either as i don’t want to moderate anything.
That’s complete and utter nonsense.
There are groups of people using it that have no contact with politics or anything out of their sphere of interest. I am in a couple of such groups.
I would love to go somewhere else and I am on lemmy, mastodon even bluesky, but there are no such communities there.
“Be the change you want to see in the world.” ;-)
Yes, that’s why I wrote that I’m here. But it’s not happening. Maybe something will change in the future, but at this moment there is nothing anyone can to do, to move these communities.
If you are a major contributor in a niche community, you can publicize your move with info of how to keep following you and syndicate links to your content on your desired platform for a set time then leave. On your desired platform let followers from Xitter know how to follow you (email, rss, bridgy, etc) if they don’t want to join your desired platform.
If you are mostly a content consumer or have FOMO, use a bridge not an account. DM all the friends you want to keep of where to find you then leave. Bird.makeup is a great Xitter bridge for the fedi.
In either case, there isn’t a reason to keep am account there.
Except everything is related to politics. The price of the bread is politics. The roads made, politics too. Having to pay the doctor or not, politics.
Politics is not “what the politicians do”. It’s “affairs of the cities”, from Ancient Greek πολιτικά (politiká). And everything that affects more than one person is an “affair of the cities”.
I love seeing these comments firmly showing how out of touch some/most of Lemmy is.
There are a lot of people and organizations that are just slow to move and don’t really know where to go.
this is an UNHINGED leap… so by that logic anyone living in america supports killing “foreign” civilians, bombing cities etc etc???
Seriously? It’s a social media site that openly support and spread right-wing misinformation, how is that comparable? People have no say in where they where born, and not all have the luxury of packing everything and move to another country, supporting a social media site is a choice.
I didn’t say people born here I said living. so all the people that have moved here willingly support bombing and invading since they CHOSE to live here got it
As a third party I don’t think we should blame America for the genocide in Gaza. We should blame Israel. We are all complicit (and way worse of course being a sponsor) by not calling it out.
i never said shit about gaza, stop assuming
Good point. Touché.