There might also be a followup examination with a thermal camera of the property, which with a server farm, would also show significantly elevated temperatures.
This is why most of us in the USA live in constant fear that our hobbies of basement aluminum smelting operations will land us on the wrong side of the law enforcement.
I sometimes wonder if really serious reptile hobbyists, the kind that’ll have like a whole room full of terrariums, have to deal with suspicious cops. Reptiles like warmth, heat mats and lamps take power, one of the most popular brands for heat mat thermostats is technically meant for controlling indoor plant heating, and if they want to grow live plants in any of their animals habitats they might need grow lights too.
As a former reptile enthusiast yes this was a valid concern. Making nice with the neighbors helped alot. Also red night lights made it look like we were running a brothel.
If there’s anything I’ve learned from my weed growing hobby, it’s that nobody cares unless you’re doing it on a near industrial scale, like converting an entire floor or house to a grow.
A hot tub requires way more power than your average hobbyist grow op these days. I can’t imagine a reptile setup is requiring 10+ kWh/day (what a fucked unit that is btw)
Plus, car charging is changing the game vs 10+ years ago. Everyone’s got huge power draws happening all the time now while their 1 or 2 evs are charging each night/day.
judges here will sign warrants for anything. the way their positions are doled out a key qualification to being a judge who signs warrants is intrinsically trusting cops
Not even a power bill. They have been known to sign warrants for nothing more than an off the shelf infrared scanner/heat scanner showing increased heat from a specific unit in a building compared to the surrounding ones.
Like your house nice and toasty in the winter? That’s a no-knock-raid.
I’ve had cops come around to check out what they could when I was living with roommates and we had all kinds of equipment that used lots of electricity. We actually got a letter from the power company telling us we were in the 99th percentile of residential power use and to consider how much money we could save if we lowered our electricity useage. I’m sure if the cops saw anything they could construe as evidence when they were snooping around they would then easily get a warrant and do a raid.
If I remember right, one cop brought his rifle in which got sucked into the MRI machine.
Even the warrant was based on a cop lying iirc. The basis boiled down to something like “energy use and tinted windows”, which, you know… Medical imaging and patient privacy.
And then they hit the emergency shutdown, which is for when people have a plate in their head and they’re stuck to the side of the machine. That one causes all the liquid helium to be quenched, thus needing to be refilled.
There is a slower shutdown that doesn’t do that, but, you know, cops.
Every detail of that story was worse than the last, and it’s 100% on the cops.
Edit: forgot another detail. The gun is probably magnetized now and might be unsuitable/unsafe for use anymore.
A button worth $25,000 on the low end to refill+replace the magnet, a million on the high end if it needs total replacement. It calls to me when I sit with the mri techs. Looking like SpongeBob trying to not push it sitting in the back.
If my theoretical pistol did get pulled into am MRI machine, stuck against it by the magnet, and I, for the purpose of scientific inquiry, pulled the trigger, should I expect the bullet to fire more or less as normal, to fire, but the bullet be pulled back to the machine, or for the bullet to not move, or not move more than an inch or so from the barrel?
That’s an implementation detail, not really relevant to my point.
I don’t think you appreciate how powerful those magnets are. Any ferromagnetic object would be doing well to avoid binding up completely when held right up to the device
I do appreciate how strong the magnets are. The force between a two 1cm square steel plates in a 2T field is about 159N or 36 lbs of force.
I do not think the contact area between parts of the trigger / sear etc and striker / whatever else are more than 1cm square, they’re also lubricated. Given the orientation of the pistol could also change, making the friction force less effective, I think it’s possible that a pistol is able to fire after being sucked into the MRI.
But to address your main question, most bullets are not magnetic. Some are, in which case idk how the mri would impact them. But most would fire as normal
I guess it depends on the steel parts. I’m sure there are other magnets.
In any case, if the firing pin or hammer or anything in the trigger mechanism is steel, it’s going to be difficult to move to actually fire.
Say the bullet has a steel tip or core though, and we are able to fire it. The force pulling that bullet is going to prevent the bullet from going much of anywhere. Let’s pretend the barrel and firing chamber are frictionless and indestructible.the bullet will leave the gun, but immediately curve into the magnetic field, inevitably into the MRI itself, but likely not very far.
There are “kinder eggs” here now, but they are in no way the kinder eggs that they have in Europe. They’re the same brand, but with a ton more plastic packaging so that we don’t get all confused about what’s chocolate and what’s not.
Between all the microplastics, digital babysitting, and the department of education, the US had to dumb down its toys or risk alienating the target market. Regarding the lower quality chocolate, they’ve begun adding crayons directly to the mix so the children grow to become better marine recruits.
In what country can you get raided due to high electricity usage?
US
A judge would sign a search warrant because of a power bill? Damn
There might also be a followup examination with a thermal camera of the property, which with a server farm, would also show significantly elevated temperatures.
This is why most of us in the USA live in constant fear that our hobbies of basement aluminum smelting operations will land us on the wrong side of the law enforcement.
While everyone else lives in fear that their basement aluminium smelting hobby will land them in the morgue due to the fumes.
Imagine if growing a plant in your home was legal and the police had to figure out something else to do with their time
I sometimes wonder if really serious reptile hobbyists, the kind that’ll have like a whole room full of terrariums, have to deal with suspicious cops. Reptiles like warmth, heat mats and lamps take power, one of the most popular brands for heat mat thermostats is technically meant for controlling indoor plant heating, and if they want to grow live plants in any of their animals habitats they might need grow lights too.
As a former reptile enthusiast yes this was a valid concern. Making nice with the neighbors helped alot. Also red night lights made it look like we were running a brothel.
If there’s anything I’ve learned from my weed growing hobby, it’s that nobody cares unless you’re doing it on a near industrial scale, like converting an entire floor or house to a grow.
A hot tub requires way more power than your average hobbyist grow op these days. I can’t imagine a reptile setup is requiring 10+ kWh/day (what a fucked unit that is btw)
Plus, car charging is changing the game vs 10+ years ago. Everyone’s got huge power draws happening all the time now while their 1 or 2 evs are charging each night/day.
Land of the Free.
America version 86.47 has been rereleased as “Land of the Fee” due to the R not willing to share its use.
judges here will sign warrants for anything. the way their positions are doled out a key qualification to being a judge who signs warrants is intrinsically trusting cops
Not even a power bill. They have been known to sign warrants for nothing more than an off the shelf infrared scanner/heat scanner showing increased heat from a specific unit in a building compared to the surrounding ones.
Like your house nice and toasty in the winter? That’s a no-knock-raid.
A judge would sign a search warrant because a cop pinky swears the target is a black ms13 Muslim antifa commiesocialmarxist.
I’ve had cops come around to check out what they could when I was living with roommates and we had all kinds of equipment that used lots of electricity. We actually got a letter from the power company telling us we were in the 99th percentile of residential power use and to consider how much money we could save if we lowered our electricity useage. I’m sure if the cops saw anything they could construe as evidence when they were snooping around they would then easily get a warrant and do a raid.
I wonder how high it needs to be to get to that point.
Depends on how behind the DEA is on meeting quotes
Happened not long ago that, for the same reason, police raided a tomography & XRay clinic. Guess what, an MRI needs serious power to work…
If I remember right, one cop brought his rifle in which got sucked into the MRI machine.
Even the warrant was based on a cop lying iirc. The basis boiled down to something like “energy use and tinted windows”, which, you know… Medical imaging and patient privacy.
Idiots and asswipes.
And then they hit the emergency shutdown, which is for when people have a plate in their head and they’re stuck to the side of the machine. That one causes all the liquid helium to be quenched, thus needing to be refilled.
There is a slower shutdown that doesn’t do that, but, you know, cops.
Every detail of that story was worse than the last, and it’s 100% on the cops.
Edit: forgot another detail. The gun is probably magnetized now and might be unsuitable/unsafe for use anymore.
A button worth $25,000 on the low end to refill+replace the magnet, a million on the high end if it needs total replacement. It calls to me when I sit with the mri techs. Looking like SpongeBob trying to not push it sitting in the back.
I understand.
Thats right! I forgot about that part.
Cops are nightmarish levels of stupidity.
Guns getting sucked into MRI machines is a recurring news story at this point.
So, a moment of curiosity.
If my theoretical pistol did get pulled into am MRI machine, stuck against it by the magnet, and I, for the purpose of scientific inquiry, pulled the trigger, should I expect the bullet to fire more or less as normal, to fire, but the bullet be pulled back to the machine, or for the bullet to not move, or not move more than an inch or so from the barrel?
Realistically, the mechanism would jam. I doubt the hammer would fall, being squeezed hard against whatever structure supports it
Most modern pistols are striker fired not hammer fired.
I’d venture a guess nothing out of the ordinary happens thanks to lube and springs. Gun fires.
That’s an implementation detail, not really relevant to my point.
I don’t think you appreciate how powerful those magnets are. Any ferromagnetic object would be doing well to avoid binding up completely when held right up to the device
I do appreciate how strong the magnets are. The force between a two 1cm square steel plates in a 2T field is about 159N or 36 lbs of force.
I do not think the contact area between parts of the trigger / sear etc and striker / whatever else are more than 1cm square, they’re also lubricated. Given the orientation of the pistol could also change, making the friction force less effective, I think it’s possible that a pistol is able to fire after being sucked into the MRI.
Interesting.
Not the answer I’m looking for, but still interesting. Thanks for the information!
But to address your main question, most bullets are not magnetic. Some are, in which case idk how the mri would impact them. But most would fire as normal
I guess it depends on the steel parts. I’m sure there are other magnets.
In any case, if the firing pin or hammer or anything in the trigger mechanism is steel, it’s going to be difficult to move to actually fire.
Say the bullet has a steel tip or core though, and we are able to fire it. The force pulling that bullet is going to prevent the bullet from going much of anywhere. Let’s pretend the barrel and firing chamber are frictionless and indestructible.the bullet will leave the gun, but immediately curve into the magnetic field, inevitably into the MRI itself, but likely not very far.
It would be pretty fun to watch though.
Ah, interesting. Good to know.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/02/12/lawyer-dies-after-shot-by-his-own-concealed-gun-triggered-by-mri-machine/
Interesting. Good to know.
That poor chair
Lead is not magnetic.
It’s also non ferrous, which is rather more the point
Damn clinics, always growing weed!
SO THATS WHAT THE MEAN BY MEDICAL MARIJUANA!! SEE ITS THE PHARMACYS GROWING WEED, GASP
USA
Land of the free
they’re so free, kinder eggs were (are?) banned lol
There are “kinder eggs” here now, but they are in no way the kinder eggs that they have in Europe. They’re the same brand, but with a ton more plastic packaging so that we don’t get all confused about what’s chocolate and what’s not.
If you mean Kinder Joy that’s a different product that we have in europe as well
The chocolate has lowered in quality. The toys have been dumbed down. Is that everywhere or just US?
Between all the microplastics, digital babysitting, and the department of education, the US had to dumb down its toys or risk alienating the target market. Regarding the lower quality chocolate, they’ve begun adding crayons directly to the mix so the children grow to become better marine recruits.
obligatory /s
Land of the fuck I don’t wanna live here anymore
California