• piefood
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      273 days ago

      He bombed children, screwed over the poor and working class, and backed a genocide. He was an average president, which is to say: A terrible president.

    • @NateNate60@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Hey, that’s not true! He failed to bring peace to the Middle East (which has been in a constant state of turmoil or imperialist occupation for one reason or another since the Romans took over Judea)!

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        243 days ago

        Are you fucking kidding me? Go spread your historically illiterate (and very racist) misinformation elsewhere; the Middle East under the Ottoman empire was exceptionally stable before European imperialism wrecked the region.

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          My bad, apparently if the imperialism gets strong enough the region becomes stable. Good take-away, thanks for letting me know.

        • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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          63 days ago

          the Middle East under the Ottoman empire was exceptionally stable before European imperialism wrecked the region.

          I uh

          think you may be viewing Ottoman imperialism through a very idealistic lens.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness
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            63 days ago

            I never said I liked the Ottoman empire, but they kept the region stable; that’s like the one thing they were good for. There’s a lot to blame Ottoman imperialism for, with the obvious elephants in the room being the janissaries and the Armenian genocide, but they were pretty successful in keeping their Middle Eastern territories intact and free of armed conflict… until they weren’t.

            • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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              33 days ago

              I never said I liked the Ottoman empire, but they kept the region stable;

              I mean, other than the constant rebellions, raids, feuds, attempted usurpations, banditry, sectarian persecution, secessions, and interstate wars, I, uh, guess?

    • @crusa187@lemmy.ml
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      103 days ago

      You mean Jill, right? Because Joe’s brains were leaking out of his skull in an unimaginably grotesque display of elder abuse for at least the last 2.5 years of the Biden presidency.