• IninewCrow
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    11220 days ago

    I’ve been saying it for the past two US election cycles … the US is a one party state with two different organizations representing just one political party.

    The Chinese have the Chinese Communist Party

    Russia has a ruling class of Oligarchs

    The US has the Republican/Democrat Party

    All three operate in the same way

    • Deceptichum
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      7320 days ago

      “The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” - Julius Nyerere

      “ The United States effectively has a one-party system, the business party, with two factions, Republicans and Democrats.” - Noam Chomsky

      People have been saying it for decades and decades, if not a century or more.

      • IninewCrow
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        2820 days ago

        Thanks for that … now I have credible references to attribute this thought.

        I knew it wasn’t smart enough to think this, it’s just haven’t read enough to know or see where others have said it before.

            • IninewCrow
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              1120 days ago

              I do watch and listen to a lot of Chomsky … but the guy has so much content, you’d have to relive his entire life to hear everything he said and read everything he ever wrote. The man is amazing. I just wish he were a lot younger than he is.

      • @tartaruga@lemm.ee
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        1020 days ago

        It’s all just a form of “divide and conquer.” Their tactics are plain to see if you are looking for them.

    • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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      2720 days ago

      The Corporate Oligarchs are the common denominator between the GOP and Democrats. The Democrats, corporate beholden though they are, are preferable merely by not being fascists.

      • @tartaruga@lemm.ee
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        820 days ago

        I think they have us stuck between the fire and the frying pan. Once in the frying pan, we are sooo glad not to be in the fire, and we get 4 more years of Dems, while the Republicans secretly march us closer to the cliff. Now their end game, Project 2025 is on fast track to actualization. The Dems make us lazy because we think they’ll help but they don’t. I feel like the Democrats hung us out to dry. I read in the New York Times, a Democrat suggested the best strategy for Trump was for the party to “roll over and play dead.” I translate that as, “the party doesn’t care.” Some party members like AOC show backbone, but the rest of them not so much.

    • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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      This is literally the attitude that allowed the Nazis to take over the German government.

      They convinced people that the left and right coalitions that formed the Weimar government made it unstable, indecisive, and corrupt. That made people apathetic about supporting any party or vulnerable to the strong-man image the Nazis used to portray Hitler.

      • IninewCrow
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        1620 days ago

        The common denominator to all these scenarios are the wealthy owner corporate class that discreetly shovel money towards the ones they want to win.

          • @Corn@lemmy.ml
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            719 days ago

            I mean the liberals did a pretty good job of sowing division by arming fascist paramilitaries, letting them assassinate socialist leaders with impunity, and running a conservative candidate. When liberals talk about unity, they mean u ifying with them, against the left.

            • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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              119 days ago

              Even if that were true, it all needs to be put aside to unify against the fascists. They pose an existential threat to democracy itself.

              • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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                619 days ago

                “I stand against fascism and want more rights for the common person.” “I am willing to aid fascists when it makes me money or helps win elections”

                Yeah let’s unite with them, surely nothing bad will happen.

                  • @Corn@lemmy.ml
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                    319 days ago

                    Except the conservative the liberals were supporting, Hindenburg, won without the socialists support, while the socialists ran their own guy with the slogan “a vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler is a vote for war”. And then Hindenburg put nazis in all the major positions of power, in the name of unity.

                    History shows us:

                    1. Liberalism creates the conditions for fascism
                    2. Liberals would rather work with fascists than socialists.
    • @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      520 days ago

      Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!

      • Julius Nyerere, first Prime Minister / President of Tanzania

      (Actual attribution of this quote is possibly in dispute, but I’ve seen it many times)

    • @Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml
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      319 days ago

      I’d rather have a one party state under a communist party than a two party state under two capitalist parties. In both cases it’s immediately obvious who these parties serve, in China, it’s the people and society, in the U.S., it’s the billionaires and capitalist class.