• Avid AmoebaOP
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    1971 day ago

    Start company.

    Run it into the ground.

    Go bankrupt.

    Buy it back.

    📈

    • @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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      601 day ago

      In the capitalist system, the investors deserve all the profits because they’re the ones risking everything, or something like this, I’m not an economists.

      • Avid AmoebaOP
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        1 day ago

        Yes, and the workers risk nothing, or something like that, I’m told. 😂

        • rigatti
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          61 day ago

          I get the sentiment and I’m all for workers sharing in profits, but what do they really risk by working at a company? Sure, the company can fail and they might be stuck in a bad situation, but shareholders and owners probably have it worse in that scenario, right?

          • @dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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            15 hours ago

            Workers risk a few things, depending on the job:

            • Health
            • Time
            • Opportunity (could be working someplace else that’s better)

            These have a lot of dimension to them, including how one quantifies what “pay” actually is/for, what legal restrictions there are around taking the job (e.g. non-compete, non-arbitration), work/life balance, and so on.

            Risk comes into play where the employee takes a bet that the job won’t destroy their health, work only as much as is absolutely necessary, and have taken a position at the optimal balance of responsibility, personal growth, retirement prospects, and income. It’s a risk since there are substantial barriers to changing to a new job, so you can wind up “stuck” in a bad position, but can’t know until after you start.

            • rigatti
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              219 hours ago

              They don’t lose their life if a company goes under though? I don’t mean to diminish the contribution of workers. I think they need a much higher share of what companies take in, and they need more voices at their companies.

              • @Alaik@lemmy.zip
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                44 hours ago

                I bet there’s far more cases of homeless and suicide due to a lost job than due to a shareholder losing value in one company’s stock.

          • @pebbles@sh.itjust.works
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            1 day ago

            Depends, are you considering the fact that 90% of stocks are owned by the top 10% of Americans? Also are you considering that being in the top 10% means you likely have rich friends and family that could bail you out? I think black rock is going to be fine.

            Most businesses aren’t like my friends parents little Chinese restraunt.

            To me using the, “think of the shareholders” line is silly for a reason. The biggest privilege is the privilege to make mistakes without becoming impoverished. Workers have it much harder in that respect.

            Edit: grammer

            • rigatti
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              219 hours ago

              You make a good point that the shareholder/business owner class is more likely to have better safety nets. So from that standpoint, if the absolute value of their loss is greater, it could have a much less significant impact on their lives.

              I think you may be underestimating the amount of small businesses though, at least in the US.

    • @CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 day ago

      You missed 2. Sell (IPO)company

      I’m not sure what he she actually did as far as divestiture, but evidently he wasn’t the current owner. I wonder to what degree unreasonable growth expectations flushed the company.

      • @Krauerking@lemy.lol
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        31 day ago

        Ah dang you did point it out. They even just copied the top comment there, unless they are ColdWetDog.