You form a union and bargain with your employer. Thats about it though
Let me explain why companies are doing things like this. They’ll make unreasonable demands and when you make mistakes as a result, the AI will capture it and they’ll use that in court to blame you as the employee and try to hold you personally liable. This is their way of saying you’re nothing more than a liability to them. Fuck this system. I’d start demanding a new employment agreement to protect yourself.
Or seek greener non-ai-infested pastures
Yea give up to A.I. that’s the only choice.
Pretty sure literally nobody here said that
Nope, refuse.
that’s what your company wants you to believe
Don’t be a pussy.
Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do. “Tattling” programs are quickly becoming a staple of any sort of logistical jobs. Companies will parade it around as if it keeps people safe, or it protects the honest employees. It’s designed to give them reasons to get rid of you.
You speak the truth.
I know it sucks. And corps are playing with the automation line. They don’t want to replace too many jobs with automation because that will trigger the need for UBI to off-set the amount of jobless people no longer driving the economy. So, instead they’ve resorted to “churn and burn” practices. Things that allow them to burn people out and toss them aside and make it the workers fault.
More than that. It’s designed first to enrich insurance, AI, and other business interests, to drive down wages and eventually replace humans with autonomous vehicles. Irobot.
This is the reason Unions exist.
Individually you have no power. As a group you do have power to force them to revoke these decisions.
Your choice is joining a Union or not.
Ok, but what can OP do now? I support joining a union. But if there is none, then forming one takes time.
Is there anything that OP can do now? Quit, maybe?
Pretty much it. Unless there’s an infringement of labor law. I don’t know where they work or much about other countries labor laws.
They would probably need to hire a lawyer in this case. Unions usually also help in these cases.
Also of you try to get your peers to unionize they “find a reason” to fire you for something totally unrelated
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Another comment said unions aren’t interested in getting rid of this.
Not my experience.
In my job they are trying to do something similar (AI driven productivity control) and unions are fighting against it.
Your options (pick any combination you please):
- do whatever you can do to make it more bearable in the short term (turn down volume of AI warnings, whatever else you can configure)
- Unionize
- Bargain with your company/Negotiate your contracts
- Get hired by a new company that gives a shit about their employees
- Become an owner-operator
- start a trucking firm with a bunch of other drivers that are fed up with that bullshit
- Find a different kind of job that doesn’t require AI to surveil and harass you.
Those are good options but I get paid 32.75 per hour during the week and 40.75 on weekends and its a pretty cushy job. Hard to just get new job.
When i was fed up with the bosses in my cushy job, I made the job more cushy by starting my independent company. Same work, more money, no assholes treating me like shit and i learned from that. Now my colleges also have a cushy job, with a competent, nice boss.
You hiring? 😎
Not currently but it’s a software dev company anyways. We have to logistics software though. And not the asshole kind.
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In the end, your mental and physical health should always come before the job. Money isn’t that nice if you are stressed wreck. You should still look for other work just so you at least have some options if it ever gets too awful dealing with all the bullshit your current work forces on you. It’s probably not going to get much better and any solution regarding disabling/mitigating the current surveillance is likely temporary at best.
Just try to do it in such way your current employer doesn’t know about it, just in case they get uppity about it. So use only devices managed by yourself for it and dont talk about it with others working for same employer.
Why is organizing not an option? Seems like you’ve ignored every reply here regarding unions, when in reality it’s the only possible way to ever get rid of the AI (and probably get you better pay and benefits)
Whats wrong with joining a union? Some 50 yrs ago, over 80% of factory workers were unionized, today its more like 30% iirc. Its not because unions dont work, its because they do and companies spend copius anounts to get them discredited.
JOIN A UNION.
- Talk to your union
- If you don’t have a union, form one
- If no one else cares, get a new job trucking
As much as others may hate it, hexbear has actually pinned great sources to start your own union.
Hexbear has a lot of good things, it’s just it’s users are sometimes a pain.
You seem kinda despairing and dismissive of the obvious answer… talking to your union.
You have no power over your employer, but your union does.
Additionally, and this is kinda wild but, have you spoken to your supervisor? What did they say? Did you explain what it is about it that’s so annoying?
I’ve worked as a consultant for companies that use this type of thing and most disable the verbal warnings and stuff because they’re not helpful in any way.
Not all of us have Unions… Just saying
Sure ok.
IDK how things roll in the US. In Australia I think most jobs can find a Union.
Even if you don’t formally unionise, talking and negotiation is the way to resolve this. If all the drivers express their misgivings to their supervisor in unison they’re likely to be heard.
In the US the manager is likely to tell them all to pound sand if they dont like it. We have very few workers rights here sadly. You are correct that being in a Union would be much better. I wish we had more of that here, but a lot of people believe the BS that they get fed from thier corporate overloards that Unions are bad.
Weird, what does your union has to say about it?
Stick a chewing gum on the thing’s speaker and start singing songs with very dirty and explicit lyrics, like gangsta rap and Bloodhound Gang.
All day long, everyday.
Persuade your colleagues to do the same.
They will have an endless string of report notifications they can’t do shit about.
Fight smart.Edit: still the best thing to do is unionize as many others already suggested, but fighting on more than one front is a good tactic, wars are won by exhausting your opponent.
Are you paid by the hour or per delivery? If by hour, malicious compliance. Stay 5mph below speed limit because you don’t want to be flagged. AI doesn’t recognize the street as such? Take a long detour, it didn’t allow me to take that route. It complains about overtaking? Never overtake ever again someone was to close to the truck when you tried to back in? Never back in again unless the premises is completely clear of people. Oh and find a better employer. An employer that doesn’t trusts its employees is never worth it.
It’s usually per mile if its long haul, which is the root of all the problems because that incentivizes the driver to go faster and spend less time on other things. And it fucks the driver over because they don’t get paid if they’re not moving, even if they’re waiting on someone else.
“You forgot your wife’s birthday again. Why can’t you be more like your cousin Jeffery? You need to lose weight.”
“Shut up!!”
“I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”
Yeah, this guy got AI when the rest of us have to settle for parents or in-laws!
I would get another job. During your exit interview, make sure they know this is the sole reason you are leaving.
its trucking they dont care (:
They don’t care until they don’t have any truckers. Then they care.
If its a big company like old dominion, they likely wont give a fuck ever, but my company always has trouble keeping hold of truckers and they really do give a shit about the churn.
It’s trucking, you should stop dismissing a union
The lady has sung.
There’s an oversupply of ununionized trucker labor, so they’ll likely just replace you until union strikes cause a labor shortage.
Yeah, talk to your union about this.
Alright, so you probably can’t get rid of it, but you can make it look like it’s defective. Make it look like it’s sending way too many false positives. Find somewhere where you can get away with making obvious mistakes and then make like fifty of them in a row. “Why would I, an intelligent human being, just sit in the middle of an empty street doing donuts in an 18-wheeler for 10 straight minutes? I have a job to do,” you say. If you got one of those “constantly monitoring everything you say” things Amazon tried rolling out, just start spouting random gibberish. Some pencil-pusher at HQ sees a transcript come back that just says “reptile shoestring meridian front sawdust henway ball Amtrak septuagint ladder correct horse battery staple java thorpe 2 Chainz” over and over for like 40 pages, worst-case scenario he’s not gonna read it, best-case scenario he’s gonna think the company’s paying way too much for shit that don’t work.
Find/make a recording the equivalent of lorem ipsum. Turn it on just loud enough for the system to hear.
Also, play death metal at a low volume. Or Barney.
Death Metal at low volume… how?
I’d honestly just put on some Scandinavian death metal and let the voice recognition software pick up gibberish English trying to anglify Norwegian and Swedish.
Get some earplugs, then out this on repeat for hours:
Fuck dangerously earplugged or headphoned drivers.
Deaf people drive just fine
Trucks are much more dangerous, having all senses available becomes much more important. There’s a reason why cars must have working horns
Deaf people compensate with a lifetime of experience.
Fuck drivers that rely on hearing to drive safely.
I suppose sirens and horns are irrelevant to you?
Not really.
Here emergency vehicles only put their sirens on for a few seconds when they’re stuck behind some oblivious idiot who hasn’t seen them coming and pulled over.
How’s are rarely used to alert you to something you need to be aware of.
Even so, noise cancelling headphones suck at blocking that type of sound. It mitigates ongoing noises like engine sound, but not something with changing pitch like a horn or siren.
Horns are ABSOLUTELY used to alert you to something you need to be aware and prevent accidents all the time. Just because assholes like to misuse them doesn’t change the reasoning on why they are required on all vehicles.
Sirens are specifically useful when you are around a blind corner and an emergency vehicle is coming toward you. Or when you otherwise don’t have line of sight with the stoving lights.
Earplugs don’t descriminate they just dull your senses. Noise canceling headphones are to a lesser extent a handicap.
Correct horse battery staple… I see you xkcd reference.
https://xkcd.com/936You’d have to get everyone with the system to do the same, otherwise it looks like 1 unit is bad. After replacing it, they’ll know something’s up if one dudes unit is putting out gibberish
This is becoming more common in a variety of jobs. I work in tech, and have heard from colleagues about their experiences with nanny software. Without a union, your best bet is malicious compliance. I would start looking for hacker communities and posting there, because there can be simple but non-obvious ways to circumvent controls while still seeming to comply, which protects your job.
This is the best option as I see it…
