• @Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
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    17617 days ago

    Literally psyops instead of helping. The people who did this are the characters you see getting shot in the movies and don’t feel bad about it.

      • @Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
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        5117 days ago

        Housing, rehabilitating and educating homeless people costs the same or less than funding their persecution, prosecution and incarceration while solving the problem instead of perpetuating it

        • FuglyDuck
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          and the business is the one deciding these things?

          Like. I get it.

          The way we treat homeless people sucks in this country.

          It shouldn’t be that way. But the business isn’t the one setting those policies here. That’s on LA and the CA governments. And while yes, some of the business interests are voicing opinions here… the barber shop and the landlords here aren’t big enough to have any pull. Many are just looking for ways to end it… and would fully support doing housing-first strategies and all that. (because they work.)

          • @PunnyName@lemmy.world
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            3317 days ago

            Businesses just bought the election for the fucking president. They can buy policy that helps humans.

            • FuglyDuck
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              You think every business wanted Trump?

              C’mon. That was a relatively few, large, businesses. Be realistic. The barber that’s looking at losing his business, the others in that building had to leave or close.

              The landlord, who can’t get tenants to move in.

              They probably weren’t trumpers anymore than you were, and I doubt very much they would resist an actual solution to the problems they’re facing.

              • @WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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                316 days ago

                There are enough idiots complaining now in a variation of “I support Trump but I didn’t think the tariffs/deportations would hurt my business”

                • FuglyDuck
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                  316 days ago

                  Yes. Because an infinitesimally small number of business owners say so, all business owners must.

                  There’s over 4.2 million small businesses in CA alone.

                  Most of which are owned and operated by totally normal, not-awful people.

                  I can’t know their politics and neither can you.

                  What I can tell you is that cities across the country are fucking up the crisis and leaving everyone else involved in a lurch. The homeless people themselves are the most obvious and most needy, don’t get me wrong.

                  But the current situation is also impacting businesses, causing them to either move away or close as people stop shopping.

                  City and state governments are fucking it up. Not the fucking barber who probably is a member of that community just trying to earn a living. Not the others who had already left or closed and were also part of the community, probably.

        • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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          Costs the same? The price of a speaker and mp3 player on loop is a lot cheaper than rehabilitation and educating homeless people. What should the business be doing was the question. Not what should the government and society as a whole be doing.

      • @SirQuack@feddit.nl
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        2416 days ago

        They shouldn’t try to keep their businesses going?

        Try to keep their business going by bullying in the public space? That doesn’t seem like something a business should do in the first place.

        • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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          516 days ago

          7-11 does it in LA. LA metro does it. Lots of businesses and public agencies are doing it. It’s definitely something they should be doing for their business and public.

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            816 days ago

            ‘Come on, babe. Lots of people are doing it. It’s ok. Totally not psychological torture or psyops. Just one more location. It’ll totally solve the problem. Come on, everyone’s doing it.’

            • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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              416 days ago

              It’s ok

              It is ok. Hearing annoying music that you can move away from is far from psychological torture. Would you consider being surrounded by drug use and by trash as psychological torture?

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                  They aren’t making the claim that they are being tortured. That would be absurd. It is also absurd to just sit in front of a speaker that is playing music and say you are being tortured instead of moving.

        • @Vegasvator@lemmy.today
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          516 days ago

          Not even close to a bad faith argument. How can they help homeless people when their business is failing and they are worried about their own financial situation?

  • @pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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    This will drive them insane, but it will not deter them.

    Soon, the city will be dealing with a bunch of unfortunate folks who are not only poor, but also enraged.

    There you go, berserked homeless people!

    • Jack
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      5617 days ago

      I love the idea of deterring them as if they have a choice and are just very persistent in exploring their passion, being homeless…

    • DominusOfMegadeus
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      1917 days ago

      “Ok, we hear you, but how can we add the irresistible craving to eat human flesh into the mix?” - the business owners, probably.

  • 2ugly2live
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    “Are you going to help them? Use the money to help anyone, or maybe take this moment to highlight people in need?”

    “The fuck? No, I’m going to make their lives worse for having the audacity to be poor and seeking shelter. How dare they ruin my view with their homelessness.

    • @Lyricism6055@lemmy.world
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      615 days ago

      Just for the sake of my own learning, how can you help them?

      In my personal experience when I’ve tried to help them they will take free clothes, food, and money… But if they don’t want to get off drugs and actually clean up their act then they won’t.

      How can you help the ones who won’t help themselves? In this case the homeless encampment seemingly hurts business and communities.

      I donate time and money to homeless shelters and things but the problem is just getting worse where I live. When these encampments pop up existing residents are less safe, and the sense of community as a whole goes down.

      These are not bad people, but addiction is hell on earth it seems. I honestly want to know how I could help more than I do, but most people don’t know how to fix it either

      • @Bael422@lemmy.world
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        1415 days ago

        Publicly paid for rent free housing. Not group shelters. Full on housing. That’s literally all it’s ever taken. Season on some free mental and medical Healthcare and you’ve got a recovery sandwich. Even if they don’t end up fixing their lives, the amount it costs the public to just give them this is cheaper than it costs to have the police harass them, build anti-homeless infrastructure, and repair damages caused by the unhoused from defecation or public property damages. The other one-two punch is fixing economic problems, which rent caps, unions, minimum wage being a living wage tied to inflation, and changing fines to imprisonment for corporations doing crimes will fix a lot of that.

        It’s too bad this can’t happen while corporations can buy the government with “donations” and lobbying (legalized bribery), and massively benefit from homelessness as a way to force people into exploitative work, or imprisonment for cheap legal slave labor (See 13th amendment). Only way I can think to fix that problem is to remove the source of their power, which is to pull money out of the equation. Essentially building communities that work together without money like we used to, though the government has standing orders to kill or break up people who try that (see Malcolm X, M.L.K. Jr., or places like lake Lanier).

      • 2ugly2live
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        615 days ago

        Someone already wrote a really good answer, but using the money to help fund programs would be a start. Maybe make a safe place where they can hang out that doesn’t offend you (not you specifically, just in general). If possible, I would even try and talk with them, become neighbors instead of enimies. While tackling homelessness would take a system wide change, I think sometimes just not adding to the problem and shame is the best we can do.

        And I get it, I’ve had homeless people scream at me, see them urinate outside, not everything humans do is pleasant, and I also wouldn’t want all of that right in front of my business. But, at least in this example, there is a ton of empty space, the building itself is mostly empty. Come together and make the rest of the unused property a shelter. That parking lot behind them alone was gigantic and I don’t think I saw any cars there, why not let them have part of the parking lot? It just seems easier to be kind and try to work with them than set up a sound system to keep the entire neighborhood up.

  • Sibbo
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    4716 days ago

    Did they pay for the rights to play the song publicly?

  • @DrownedRats@lemmy.world
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    3216 days ago

    Not so fun fact, ths cia used “i love you” by barney the dinosaur as a method of torture for prisoners during the war on terror and beyond!

  • @hypeerror@sh.itjust.works
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    2417 days ago

    How about getting everyone who’s upset that they have to see homeless people and blinding them with hot pokers? That should work it out and we wouldn’t need to pay royalties.

    • @markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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      3815 days ago

      Within the last year. Everyone decided that McDonald’s doesn’t want burger ads next to no no words and it’s ruined the mainstream Internet

      • @SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2815 days ago

        Fuck shit bitch piss fucking cunt shit snargletooth fucked asshole bitch cock.

        Ahhh… Feels good.

        A true pity over the mainstream internet though. The timeframe in which it was beautiful… Was brief. Maybe someday it can be, again. 🥂 A revoir.

        • @smiletolerantly
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          I dream of a pure information protocol. Kinda like RSS, but… More.

          • allow any piece of information (news article, DM, sensor reading,…) to be wrapped in a standard format
          • subscribe to any number of source directly or indirectly (e.g. through a self-hosted relay server)
          • allow networks to define default data sources (e.g. get sensor data from machines as soon as you are connected to corporate networks
          • make the data declare what UI elements are required,
          • but allow clients to display them however the fuck they want
          • allow user to assign priorities statically or programmatically to any source, and to filter, sort, categorize based on it

          Essentially: I want “the feed” from universes like The Expanse

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        • @Klear@lemmy.world
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          915 days ago

          I’m so happy that people on Lemmy hate self-censorship as much as they should. Whenever a meme with a censored word gets posted, the comments are nothing but complaints until OP fixes it.

    • @CalipherJones@lemmy.world
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      I deleted my TikTok after my comment was removed. I said “gross” to some people being racist. Yes, apparently just the word gross is enough. I knew this was coming. Censorship of the internet was my first concern when AI started to be rolled out. It’s getting bad to the point I no longer want to participate.

  • @A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    1716 days ago

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    🤷

    But I know the phenomenon. They also do this for shopping promenades to deter musicians etc.

  • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    516 days ago

    Any business that irks me in any way for the last year has instantly made my shitlist.

    The only freedom Americans have left is where they spend their money