• @BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
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    These people are TOAST! If the Wanted to ACTUALLY Peacefully Protest they SHOULD have just BROKEN the CAPITOL WINDOWS, BEATEN CAPITOL POLICE, POOPED ON THE CAPITOL WALLS and USED WEAPONS!

    • FlashMobOfOne
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      And you’re going to have to ally with those people at some point to stop this fascism.

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          I’m sure black people didn’t foresee how standing next to white supremacists was in any way helpful during WWII, or capitalists standing next to communists, or Christians standing next to Muslims, but it was necessary.

          It’s basic history. You’re going to have to figure out how to stand with people you don’t like very much, as much as you enjoy the ‘leopards ate your face’ jokes.

          Though after the last six months, I imagine Democrats would rather hide in a bunker making ‘leopards ate your face’ jokes or writing sternly-worded letters than actually defeat fascism anyway.

          • @CXORA@aussie.zone
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            54 days ago

            Your analogies make sense if you identify a common enemy. We do not have a common enemy. They are directly supporting the enemy.

            If you have anything more concrete to point to to explain your point I’m absolutely stumped.

  • queermunist she/her
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    Remember! They wouldn’t do this if they didn’t think they had to - this government action comes from a place of weakness, not strength.

    • companero [he/him]
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      405 days ago

      They don’t have to, though. There’s a vast army of pigs in California. Way more than enough to handle protests of this scale.

      They’re doing this because they want to.

      • queermunist she/her
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        A few protests can be handled by cops, what they’re scared of is a repeat of the BLM uprisings. They’re trying to get ahead of the problem before it spreads to every city.

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          BLM spread because of police brutality and overreactions. If they are trying to “get ahead of it” by escalating into extreme violence quickly it will only escalate the protests faster.

          The way to “get ahead” of BLM and actually subvert it is to do what Joe Biden and the Democrats did. Coopt the peaceful elements of the movement into the corporate, NGO and DNC controlled sphere, alienate and isolate the radicals, give promises of reforms and then never do anything. Every heavy handed thing the Trump administration did only made the protests in 2020 worse for them and empowered the radicals.

          • queermunist she/her
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            I didn’t say it would work, I’m just saying that this is their plan. Make people too afraid to protest.

            That’s clearly their plan for the anti-genocide protests, after all.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        105 days ago

        Some of the cities are sanctuary cities and the mayors have ordered the local PD to stand down and not join ICE/DHS.

        Bringing in the National Guard is a way to circumvent that and get ICE reinforcements without having to do the slow legal confrontations to dismantle what’s left of sanctuary cities

      • @IttihadChe@lemmy.ml
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        85 days ago

        They know that as the empire continues to fall and their overreach begins to affect more lives, protests will grow.

        The standard pigs can handle what we have now, they can’t handle what is to come.

        Whether this move is to pre-empt a coming change of the “big beautiful bill” that guts medicare/medicaid and other social programs, an even broader “sweeping net” policy on immigration, direct hostilities with Iran/China, something else, or all of the above…

        They are predicting a broad national outrage over something.

    • @jaxxed@lemmy.ml
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      This is likely a part of the Authoritarian plan, as opposed to a response to loss of control.

      • queermunist she/her
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        It’s not about a loss of control, it’s about maintaining control to prevent a loss of control. They don’t want another BLM summer.

        • @jaxxed@lemmy.ml
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          I still think that they have been looking for an excuse, in order to change the paradigm in a fundamental way.

  • @hansolo@lemmy.today
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    OoooooooooK. So, who wants to start a betting pool on which day this week we get martial law? Price is Right rules?

    Imma say Tuesday.

  • @DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    To me, this looks like yet another sign that the current regime is striving for tyranny. That, in turn, would probably mean civil war, unless US citizens are willing to accept the end of democracy.

    At least, that’s how it looks to me, a European. Do you feel the same way?

    I mean, it’s pretty obvious that the US government doesn’t care about the law. And then, to top it all off, there’s this ridiculous military parade for Drump’s birthday … only someone with dictator ambitions would do something like that.

    • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      Yeah, the LA “riots” where super tame by riot AND LA standards. Like, they didn’t even have to bust out the water cannons. A skateboarder tanked some tear gas and flipped them off. It’s not like a bunch of people stormed the capitol building or something. This is the flimsiest excuse ever for martial law, so I have to assume it’s another step towards tyranny.

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        Yes, I see it the same way. But it seems that implementation is now imminent, and I fear that resistance will be necessary, because soon it will probably be too late.

        I’m from Germany, and the actions of the US government remind me eerily of the rise of the Nazis in my home country back then - almost as if history were repeating itself.

    • djsoren19
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      55 days ago

      From the ground, it feels like a lot of Americans are willing to trade their democracy for the illusion of peace.

  • @fossilesque@mander.xyzOP
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    If you choose to go out to help, sharpie the number of a local legal non profit helpline on your arm and leave your phone at home. Bring a sharpie to write the number on others arms. Mask up. Solidarity and safety, my friends.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    305 days ago

    Remember when libs kept promising us the military would never use violence against the American people? Remember how they said if a tyrant became president the military would refuse orders to harm fellow Americans?

    God it would be funny if there wasn’t a literal genocide that needed to be ended first.

  • @Wilco@lemm.ee
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    325 days ago

    The funny consequences about labeling everything as an act of rebellion is that everything suddenly becomes an act of rebellion. The door opens and now we have to deal with rebels everywhere.

    ICE cant be everywhere getting everyone because there is a fucking rebellion, so that means there are captured rebels in court, on trail, with jurors … when the rebels start getting found not guilty by their local courts they are no longer rebels … what are they? Revolutionists.

  • oppy1984
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    155 days ago

    Breaking into the capital, causing physical damage, attacking police officers, stealing U.S. government property. That’s defending democracy.

    Standing outside a federal detention center where people are being illegally held. That rebellion.

    Welcome to trump’s America, peace I’d was, slavery is freedom.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      145 days ago

      Most honest US politician says unlimited force to protect his elevated position is fine, but the tiniest amount of force protesting that position is illegal terrorism.

  • @ryedaft@sh.itjust.works
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    275 days ago

    And what’s a riot? Well you see, if a shopping cart is on fire then that’s a riot. If the police show up in riot gear then that’s a riot. If people stand up for their rights then that’s a riot.

  • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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    165 days ago

    People peacefully assembling to exercise their Constitutional rights, and the guy who planned, led, and launched an actual Insurrection which obviously attacked hundreds of cops wants to claim THAT’S a rebellion.