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Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
I just found out about the death of Charlie Kirk. The only reason I found out is because I read the Atlantic weekly on Mondays. I live in Finland, where nobody knows and nobody would care if they did. Finland is great.
“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023
Finally a good guy with a gun
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.
They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there’s one less.
Were? They already are. Is there no one who remembers what happened in Minnesota a few months ago?
He ded?
He ded now
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He ded.
I doubt he survived that, but if he did he’ll be fucked for life
He didn’t. The shot blew a major artery, death in less than a minute.
Shame he didn’t suffer
I just saw the news. Holy shit. I mean, how big of an iPhone screen do you need?
Don’t kid yourself, whatever they were going to do, is going to taken up a few notches.
However you feel about his dying, the manner of his death will absolutely change what happens next.
*Fewer
Don’t you kink shame me
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We need both fewer and less.
Because of guns?
Things is, talking like this, using these words means you gotta keep shooting people. So you better start buying bullets
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas.
Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated “crime fighting” excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They’ve needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.
They’ll make up whatever excuses they need either way so it doesn’t really make a difference.
They’re going to do fascism no matter what! They don’t care about truth. They can just make shit up if they need to rile up their supporters.
It’ll be interesting to see the contrast with the political response to this assassination compared to the Democratic Minnesota lawmaker that was assassinated a couple months ago
I get the distinct feeling conservatives won’t be nearly as silent about this one
You mean like deploying troops in our cities?
Oh wait, they already did that.
Or, do you mean shipping people off the concentration camps?
Oh shit, that’s already being done.
What you’re upset about is that the fascism has stepped closer to YOU.
It will be like the Iraq war.
Saudi Arabia was responsible, but we’re going to attack Iraq instead.
They do that anyway. Fuck 'em.
This accelerates it for sure. I think more of what this will do is show us a clear line of liberals becoming fascist as they criticize “leftist violence”.
And, to be clear, we have no idea what the motivation of the shooter was. THAT MOTIVATION DOES NOT MATTER. Please do not waste your time arguing with the fascist over this. They already made up their mind on how they would use this for their narrative. They control all media outlets.
Get off the internet and get ready to keep your family and neighbors safe. This was coming. But it’s coming faster now. The liberals will only focus on condemning this violence NOT the state violence that is about to follow.
I think this is a net positive, especially because the shooter was reportedly an old white guy
Oh, yeah, they will, but that’s inevitable anyway. It won’t occur to them that oppressing Dems will only make them stronger and more resolved. Nothing has created more terrorists than Conservative military operations.
Inb4 Fox News talking heads all get Secret Service protection, so Trump can continue watching them all day.
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I get the attempt at dark humor but honestly, damn, for me, that’s a no.
This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you’re too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you… Then, for the greater good, good riddance
Don’t get me wrong, he got what he advocated for, I’m certainly not crying or really feeling anything about his death but huh, I guess dude FAFO’ed. I just don’t find the “good guy with a gun” comment appropriate here that’s all even if a small sliver of me goes “yeah, kinda, yeah” because more than likely that guy is very much not a good guy, probably very mentally ill.
Just my thoughts.
From the bits I saw of the alleged shooter getting arrested, to me it looks like the guy was planning on getting caught. Balding old white men who can shoot like that don’t strike me as the type who run away.
EDIT: Waiting for confirmation on whether the actual suspect is caught or not.
Last I saw the shooter is still free, the person originally arrested is not involved and has been released.
Hmm. I guess we’ll wait and see.
per AP:
Person taken into custody after Charlie Kirk was shot in Utah is not believed to be shooting suspect, AP source says
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I completely understand, and I actually wish that I could share your perspective. Unfortunately for my “empathy for all” perspective, I couldn’t help but smile when I read that he got shot. Because my mind directly went to the “oh, this is gonna alleviate so much suffering” POV
My reaction:
“Wait, who got shot? Really? Wow. So, what’s for dinner?”
I haven’t read about, and am not interested in the shooter.
My opinion is only that the world is better off without Charlie Kirk, nothing else at this point.
I’m adding FAFOed to my lexicon
I don’t know. This is only going to cause MAGA to ramp up their fascism, and give them a better excuse to enact further violence on us, the citizens.
wHo CoUlD hAvE sEeN tHiS cOmInG?!?!
They didn’t need this. They were going to do it regardless. They might use this as an excuse, sure, but it wont’ be the reason.
Fascist do not “need” a reason to remove rights from people.
what/who you are and advocate for causes these things
“If someone tries to assassinate you, it’s because you deserve it”, in other words.
Seems like a pretty dangerous stance to take.
We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. That’s the context that every discussion of Kirk’s death should begin with.
How’s this for dark humour?
I just have to ask, is it because another human being was shot or were you one of the people celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden?
Humor?
Just for the chance that this snowballs and we get more good guys with guns making moves like this, I’m buying a bag of popcorn kernels and cheap “champagne” (because I can’t afford anything else).
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You got to admit if you didn’t want to get shot, visiting a US school was a bad idea.
Its in moments like these that I really appreciate non corporate social media. Everywhere outside the fediverse all I see is people freaking out, acting like this is the first shooting to ever happen in the united states. Even supposed leftists are just like “I don’t agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs”.
They seem to have forgotten that people get killed over way dumber shit all the time. Personally I care about all the other shootings a lot more than this one. Especially the school shooting in Colorado that happened the same afternoon, which is being mostly ignored.
There are even lots of comments that condemn anyone making light of his death, or even just making comments about his politics. This dissent they condemn is almost nowhere to be found though, because algorithms bury it all straight to the bottom. The only opinion allowed to be seen is “I’m horrified look at me”.
Coming back to a place where a real discussion can be had makes me realize just how important this project really is. We need more spaces that we truly own.
Hey, be respectful. This man really put his neck out for his beliefs. He offered himself as tribute to the 2nd amendment, and we should admire his conviction. The proper way to celebrate would be to honour his wishes and show zero empathy. It’s the least we can do for him.
It’s a rare man that has the courage to rationalize senseless violence in defense of unrestricted access to deadly weapons, and it is even rarer to literally make that the hill you die on. He showed us all by example how you truly live your creed.
Trump ally Charlie Kirk suggests children should watch public executions
He ended up being the one being executed publicly
So yesterday was the 9/11 anniversary. There was also a school shooting on the same day this piece of human garbage was rightfully shot in the jugular. I read and scour the news every day and use Google News as an aggregator. So does my wife. You had to scroll down about 10-15 stories to even get to the school shooting, and I swear… I didn’t see much coverage about 9/11 at all. Not like they usually do every year. But here we are with Charlie Kirk’s stupid fucking face plastered everywhere as if he is someone to be admired. 9/11 and the aftermath of the war on terror DESTROYED this country. As far as I am concerned, the terrorists fucking won. All progress made up to that point began to faulter and collapse as the divisions between people beating the drums of war in that time and those that didn’t want to necessarily go to war or a multifront full scale war grew further and further. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back leading us to now, where a bigoted, misogynistic, homophobic, piece of shit like Charlie Kirk even makes the fucking headlines. What a fucking time to be alive.
There’s so many layers of irony to this event. You can’t make this shit up.
A man, who made a career downplaying gun violence and advocating against empathy for its victims, was shot while giving a talk about his favorite topic under a tent that said “Prove me wrong”, on a college campus in a state that just lifted its ban on weapons on college campuses. His own quotes can be endlessly used to shut down any outrage at his ironic demise.
Charlie Kirk’s final moments were spent being definitively and completely proven wrong.
If this wasn’t going to used as an excuse to ban Trans people from owning firearms and for further violence against the opposition, it would be hilarious.
remember when sitting republican congressmen turned the attempted assassination of Nancy Pelosi into a joke? like actually making jokes about it? they’re so good at condemning political violence
He was sitting at what he calls the “prove me wrong” table, answering questions about gun violence.
I think someone managed it.
Trump ordered flags at half mast until Sunday. So this piece of shit got what he quite literally asked for and it’s a national tragedy, but innocent children killed in schools on a weekly basis get “nothing we can do about it, thoughts an prayers 🤷♂️.” Fucking clownshow.
Reminder that this is Kirk’s stance on guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVc9l6pjxtI
Unfettered 2A is worth the gun deaths according to Charlie Idiot here.
ETA: holy shit, saw a clip and damn, that dude is dead.
