• MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
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    I keep reading people complaining about how people are taking these quotes out of context.
    So went to the source, and I see them in context.

    They are actually worse in context.

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    I had someone try to tell me I was stooping to his level with my dark humor memes.

    I told them, I can’t do that because I’m not 6ft under.

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    Yep. I’ve already said this like three times on other platforms: it’s ok to be happy about this. He gave you permission. Twice, actually. The “it’s worth sacrificing a person every now and then if it means we get to have guns” and this empathy thing.

    This is maybe the only time it’s ok to be happy someone died.

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      This is maybe the only time it’s ok to be happy someone died.

      There was also that one guy who shot himself in an underground bunker in Berlin. Gun violence and suicide are never OK but sometimes they are.

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      Every single time a fascist dies, is a time to celebrate. And yes, I mean absolutely every single fucking time.

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      I’m sure there’s way more than only two examples, but I’ll be fucked if I’m going to wade through his nonsense to find them.

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      You could also be happy in Kim Jong Un dies… maybe Putin?

      I always wonder where the cut off is, how evil does someone have to be for society to accept their death with gladness?

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    Here’s the frustration and why this should not be celebrated:

    Charlie Kirk spent years dehumanizing people, making lives measurably worse, and profiting from hatred. The cosmic irony of him being shot while calling trans people dangerous and minimizing gun violence feels like the universe delivering a punchline he wrote himself. There’s a cathartic release in seeing someone who seemed untouchable suddenly silenced by the very violence he dismissed.

    But that catharsis is blinding, vile, and destructive. Every celebration post, every “rest in piss” meme, every “fucked around and found out” joke is already being screenshot and weaponized. The worst people imaginable, those eager to exploit violence, are being handed exactly what they want: supposed proof that “they were right,” justification for crackdowns, and, most dangerously, a martyr whose blood sanctifies every awful thing he stood for.

    Celebration may feel like a dunk on fascism, but in reality it accelerates it. It may feel like strength, but it exposes a movement so strategically bankrupt that it mistakes emotional satisfaction for political victory. Kirk alive was one influencer among many; Kirk dead is a rallying cry that will outlive us all.

    The rage at what he represented is justified. But celebrating his death guarantees those very ideas will flourish. American democracy is dying, and a gravedigger falling into the hole is no victory when it only deepens the grave.

    His ideas needed to be defeated. Instead, they’ve been immortalized.

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    I remember every single time someone they didn’t like died. They would rejoice in the most vile manner imaginable. Fuck them.

    I am betting that Kirk’s killer was a fellow conservative who found him too soft and not hard right enough.

    Or… maybe it was the same guy who killed Brian Thompson… because Luigi is innocent.

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    He had shitty opinions, we know. I won’t follow them. I will have empathy and I will not celebrate his death. Still, I think the world’s population improved with one less hateful person around.

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    OK, honestly I’m not going to celebrate a murder. But nothing can stop me from appreciating the heck out of the irony.

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    I don’t give a shit about Charlie Kirk, rest in piss, but my celebration is mildly stunted by the fact that this is a dangerous thing to normalize and this is a massive notch in that direction given how huge of a public figure he was and the nature of his assassination being so public.

    Of course, the right is largely responsible for that normalization, and Charlie Kirk’s death is actually on people like Charlie Kirk’s very hands. However, for me its just the consequences and the dark future that this seems to push us further into.

    Hopefully the right fails to capitalize on his death effectively and we move onto largely forgetting about the piece of shit.

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    My dad was team horse de-wormer back in covid. Don’t talk to him much.

    Mom now says the he was a christian and he did everything right.

    Guess sometimes parents can suck too

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    They didn’t seem to care when it was Paul Pelosi, or the two democratic politicians that were assassinated in their homes.

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      They’ll care when it’s Republican Politicians being paraded through the streets like the politicians in Nepal.

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    trump is honoring him with a military procession, to distract from epstein. people said he was killed over, because he was pining for epstein files to be released. Kirk did more harm than good, but MSMS seems to try to sanewash him.

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    I wouldn’t say he was murdered. He considered himself to be a culture warrior and when a warrior falls in battle, even if it’s a most pointless battle standing on the wrong side of history, it’s generally not considered murder.