The new trade deal between the European Union and the U.S. means that pedestrians from Lisbon to Helsinki will be endangered by big, American-made trucks.
Thanks for replying, are you implying that they can not be driven with a standard B license? I could believe it but I thought that B encompassed quite a lot of vehicles/mass/sizes
EU (and UK) car licenses cover a maximum fully-laden weight of 3.5T, which these trucks vastly exceed - some of them weigh well over 2.5T before you even put fuel in. Since US regulations are not currently being considered, it’s up to the importer to declare the maximum weight so they just pinky-swear that the MLW is 3,499.9999kg or whatever. It’s arresting to think that if these were judged fairly, most EU drivers couldn’t drive one of these but could drive a LWB Sprinter.
It’s also worth remembering that even in the US, trucks are commercial vehicles distinct from cars and it’s only because of terminal car-brain that they’re subject to exclusions and subsidies that makes it possible to use one just for commuting.
I think you might be right. But there are pbbly still some of those lighter pickups that can be driven by a B licence, which is unfortunate. I found the vehicle chart on Wikipedia quite helpful https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
P.S. also crazy that so many US vehicles exceed that weight limit. Heavy and big cars are generally bad for everyone.
The B license is only about gross weight. The limit is 3.5t, it doesn’t matter what the vehicle is registered as. If it’s too heavy, it’s too heavy. If a too heavy vehicle has a light enough empty weight, it might be possible to downrate its gross weight. Of course that means you’ll have much less load capacity then, and getting caught overloaded is no joke.
maybe it’s a regional thing, i know the eu license system is a mess. here it also limits the amount of passengers, and vehicles can be re-registered for use with a b license if they meet certain criteria like number of seats.
Thanks for replying, are you implying that they can not be driven with a standard B license? I could believe it but I thought that B encompassed quite a lot of vehicles/mass/sizes
EU (and UK) car licenses cover a maximum fully-laden weight of 3.5T, which these trucks vastly exceed - some of them weigh well over 2.5T before you even put fuel in. Since US regulations are not currently being considered, it’s up to the importer to declare the maximum weight so they just pinky-swear that the MLW is 3,499.9999kg or whatever. It’s arresting to think that if these were judged fairly, most EU drivers couldn’t drive one of these but could drive a LWB Sprinter.
It’s also worth remembering that even in the US, trucks are commercial vehicles distinct from cars and it’s only because of terminal car-brain that they’re subject to exclusions and subsidies that makes it possible to use one just for commuting.
I think you might be right. But there are pbbly still some of those lighter pickups that can be driven by a B licence, which is unfortunate. I found the vehicle chart on Wikipedia quite helpful https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
P.S. also crazy that so many US vehicles exceed that weight limit. Heavy and big cars are generally bad for everyone.
not all vehicles can be registered as “mainly for personal transportation” (don’t know the actual term), which is a requirement for B licenses.
The B license is only about gross weight. The limit is 3.5t, it doesn’t matter what the vehicle is registered as. If it’s too heavy, it’s too heavy. If a too heavy vehicle has a light enough empty weight, it might be possible to downrate its gross weight. Of course that means you’ll have much less load capacity then, and getting caught overloaded is no joke.
maybe it’s a regional thing, i know the eu license system is a mess. here it also limits the amount of passengers, and vehicles can be re-registered for use with a b license if they meet certain criteria like number of seats.
The limit to the number of passengers to 8 applies to all licenses other than class D1 and D.
i see.