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amazing how much shittier it is to be in the rat community now that the racists won. before at least they were kinda coy about it and pretended to still have remotely good values instead of it all being yarvinslop.
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it would be nice to be able to ever invite rat friends to anything but half the time when I’ve done this in the last year they try selling people they just met on scientific racism!
Oh, I just realised!
Does “rat” refer to “rationalist”?
I thought it was referring to Lemmy because of the rat symbol.
When this was posted to the curatedtumbler subreddit so many people thought it calling out racist pet rat owners.
The one racist rat pet owner is gonna be so mad. ‘i might be a nazi, but im not a nerd’.
It does, I dont like it personally because of the whole dont compare people you do not like to vermin bit. But it is also a commonly used thing inside the Rationalists community. (I personally also like to capitalize Rationalist when im talking about the lesswrong etc people to make it clear im not talking about normal rationalism).
I wish they had not literally called their ideology rationality ™ because I can’t call it that with a straight face, but eighteenth-century rationalists would go through them like a galleon through a fleet of canoes. I don’t know if teenaged-Yud was already a Libertarian or if he reinvented Objectivism from first principles. Political movements on the American right also rely on the same rhetorical move: “we are for freedom! How could anyone be against freedom?”
Now I feel like I need to read up on all terms in the sidebar before continuing further.
Either way, I’d most probably still stand on my point of not defining a person by the community they relate to and not defining a community by some people that you interact with from said community.
*-ism and *-ist haven’t been doing much good for a long time now.
u wot m8? they’re hanging out with active racists recruiting people to racism and their response is to stop taking those guys to parties? you fuckin bet i’m gonna judge them by relating to that community
This is the stance of a lot of people when they first learn of or get skeptical about the Lesswrongosphere. Not a stance you can hold for very long when you read more and more of their work with a critical eye.
Or you find another of their blogs where Steve Sailer is a beloved (but sometimes begrudged) regular. Or when you notice that big twitter race and IQ guy and eugenicists started in Rationalism. Or when the EA people themselves admit this is a huge problem. Or… Etc. Drink horse drink!
This is my stance on Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Racism, Scientism, realism, pragmatism, capitalism, communism, fascism, left-ism, right-ism, up-ism, down-ism, and whatever other way to group people you can come up with.
And history will prove me right, as it has before.
Here you see just one of those -isms. And there will be similar examples everywhere.
People who got fooled. People who were just better than others. People who fooled others into adding them to their group, just to then overthrow everything the group stood for, just to use it for totally different things.
― Steven Weinberg
I will go ahead and extend this to anything and everything that gives a person the sense of belonging.
That can delay/reduce a persons critical thinking capabilities just enough to destroy everything they stood for.
They they either realise that and suffer, or they never realise and the world suffers.
both-sidesing Nazis, you’re not smart enough for this ride.
programming.dev, eh
I know I’m kinda bouncing the rubble at this point, but I want to highlight another bit of crazy here:
That sense of belonging is definitely part of normal human psychology, and ties into the whole self-concept and sense of identity; we need to know ourselves in relation to one another just as much if not more than we need to understand ourselves in relation to the physical world. Rejecting (checks notes) the concept of community is wildly unhealthy and will lead to deeply unhinged and unhappy people.
This just comes off as your extended justification about not liking to think about things too hard.
I also noted a hint of Serpiroth posting in there with the whole ‘History will prove me right!’ bit. Wonder where it will go.
orchestra intensifies
Elmo trying to rationalize the existence of Rocko, the bad ending.
Lol you seem really invested in this idea. Seems to be an important part of your identity, so much so it seems to have reduced your critical thinking skills.
Turns out I wasn’t trying to get a horse to drink, but a wolf.
(Yes, I intended it as a self-deprecating joke about trying to reach people who can’t be reached, and im now turning it into a joke about selfawarewolves. And because I think too highly of my jokes and do not want people to miss my meaning, im also explaining it).
Anyway, odd thing to say about a cult incubator in which the head honcho is pro bombing datacenters.
Now let’s be careful here; Yud is in favor of the government bombing data centers, but I’m sure he’s opposed to individual acts of political violence, a distinction that is completely relevant to the guy sweeping the floors in the one that hypothetically gets bombed.
Yeah that is true, but another thing this distinction also might not matter to any of his more extreme followers either.
One of those hunger strikers also went ‘I have no idea why Yud isnt going on hinger strike’. (Great way of not noticing your confusion).
Wild move to quote weinberg, noted zionist and hero of enemy of the instance saaronson.
You probably shouldn’t be here.
correct
We should ask what his opinion is on Charlie Kirk’s murder, or antifa, things will get really spicy then I think.
From the list of *isms they sent it presumably also includes racism. We should not be making sweeping generalisations about the racism community, there are a lot of good people in it you know?
It would make us just as bad as them!!!11
https://tmbw.net/wiki/Lyrics:Your_Racist_Friend
somehow not the first or second TMBG reference I’ve seen today