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So, as with many other people. this stuff is certainly pushing me into Linux.
That said, is there no chance of the EU restarting their probes towards them with all the dark patterns they’ve been using to push people into Edge?
Can I run Windows 7 in a VM if I am forced to use 10 or 11 somehow?
Why the hell would you want to?
In case I want to use a OS that still works, as opposed to the user-hostile resource-depleting exhausting visual messes like Windows 11?
In case I want to use a OS that still works
You can
- run your favorite flavor of Arch on your bare metal
- use Aero theme plasma with KDE
- legitimately install VMware Workstation Pro, since it’s free now.
- run windows 7 in a VM with extended kernel patches. (bonus points for making your windows VM immutable)
Hm, I’ll see what I can do about that. I have a Value Village rescue PC that will soon be set up.
there is a security risk so no
Please describe the nature of this risk, and explain why I don’t have any of them?
Reminds of that kid that trips over and eats a class colleague’s entire banana
“Banana”
I laughed at Microsoft a lot when they basically made Windows 10 beg people to try edge.
You tried to change your default and it was like, this isn’t recommended! And you’re like, idgaf change the default, and Windows is like, are you sure? Yes! But edge can save battery power. Are you really sure?
Fuck off edge. Change the default.
Are you sure?
I work IT support. I’ve seen the dialog about 1000 times.
It’s crazy how many people prefer a browser that’s not edge.
They seem to have removed it in Windows 11, and even might have disabled it in later versions of 10. Idk, everything I’m dealing with now in terms of new setups are Windows 11.
But are you really sure?
You convinced me, it definitely didn’t happen. I was hallucinating again.
Microsoft needs to hire a psychologist or something. Their senseless nagging on forcing shit down our throats doesn’t psychologically work the way they think it does.
Except it does work. Its easy to forget that most users dont really know or care that much about their browser or care what their laptop is doing.
They just click things until something with search bar comes up.
The tech savy people are not their biggest customer group so they can risk annoying some people as long as they know they are getting more people in to their enviroment than they are loosing their users.
I hate that Windows is like this
It would be better if people didn’t need to worry about switching.
Microsoft Edge encountered an error: Microsoft Edge is not the default browser. We reset your default browser to Microsoft Edge to resolve the problem
The problem obviously being that it is not the browser they want you too use, so they create “a problem”.
They don’t even need to go that far. Windows has so many problems all the time, they just have to pick one and attribute this response to it.
Why stop at just one? Someday soon I’m sure they’ll gleefully tell you that Windows couldn’t format your USB thumb drive, so they reset your browser.
“Oops, couldn’t find that file! Better reset your browser. Actually I’ll just go ahead and turn Windows Recall back on, too. Better get your OneDrive trial started also, I know you wanted that…”
make sure to encrypt your drive so only we can spy on you, not scary people who steal your computer!
Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.
I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack to disable ads/AI/bloat and restore removed Start menu functionality (like vertical taskbars). Also, always build the ISO in Rufus so you have the option to disable the Microsoft account requirement.
Alternatively you could* switch to Linux.
Or, if you must stay on Windows, you could switch to Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is Windows 11 without the shitware and with ten years of guaranteed updates. The Mass Grave has the details.
Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.
I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack…
Me: Why go through all that trouble, just install Linux
Alternatively you would switch to Linux.
Welp
Damn it, could*
I just finished migrating our last windows holdout in my house. Honestly very painless and while everyone is different we haven’t had any regrets. Eol for Windows 10 was a fantastic bogeyman.
What distribution did you migrate to? (Not trying to start a fight, I’d just like to switch myself)
oh jeez lol I’ve never had a Linux fight. I picked kde neon because I love the ui and neon is bleeding edge for plasma updates. being based on Ubuntu which I was already familiar with sealed the deal. it’s very comfortable for Windows users out of the box,and can be customised further into a visual clone of Windows 10/11. I’ve had a great time gaming on it, very little set up for amd.
Thanks mate, I appreciate all the info
Glad I could help, if you’re looking to try it out and have a spare usb lying around you can try a live version. That loads the OS into ram and allows you to try out the os. most(maybe all) linux distros have one. Fair warning it will be noticeably faster than everything due to running off ram. if you like it enough you can install it alongside Windows, then if you’re completely sold you can use the live disk again to expand the Linux partition over Windows.
Here is the neon download page. It has instructions for making a live usb.
ps. i may have also undersold kde, they also have a whole suite of neat applications they’ve made for their os
Finally managed to get my dad to switch his laptop
nice, my wife was super hesitant. I had to remind her she only uses libreoffice and firefox anyway hahaha
To be fair
I didn’t notice that either
They say that Stockholm syndrome is fake because of bad data. Windows is the proof that it’s true.
There is a possible version of windows that is good and that people want. It’s a just a shame that Microsoft isn’t interested it making it.
As someone who grew up on windows, I’m willing to stay with it for as long as I can make it like that version. I don’t want Mac, and Linux doesn’t support enough (still, but maybe one day)
There is no end on Microsoft nagging:
- Trying to install Firefox.
- Windows: Why would you need another browser? You already have a browser. Use Microsoft Edge.
That’s why i completely nuked Edge when i was still on windows 11. Including WebView. I simply did not give a fuck if anything used edge.
When i installed (fedora) linux for the first time, i was like:
wait… this really does only what i tell it to! holy shit!
And i never looked back. (And i distrohopped over time. I am currently using arch, and testing NixOS in a VM via virt-manager. If i find it to be good enough, i’ll copy the config and install on my host, alongside arch. And slowly, i’ll nixify my pc.)
nix>>>
although have you considered gentoo?
Aww, I found you. My green twat tag buddy! See, it works great. Hope you have an excellent day!
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and NO.
My laptop already suffers enough when compiling stuff through the AUR, i won’t even try it.
Nix made me love my computer. I have everything I want and if anything goes wrong I just rollback. After a taste it’s the only OS that feels right
I’ve been using Firefox for over a decade, and Windows has never complained about it. What are you talking about?
I think this started with Windows 10, don’t know which version though. A couple examples from the net:
I love how in their minds this is going to be a win. Like there are going to be all these people out there who just quietly accept that they’ll use Microsoft Edge from now on, and also in addition not form any kind of revision to their brand impression of Microsoft going forward.
I am sure there are some people who just kind of don’t give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it’s a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.
I am sure there are some people who just kind of don’t give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it’s a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.
You’re definitely overestimating the size of your own bubble. The vast, vast, vast majority of people won’t even notice, forget caring or actually doing anything about it.
https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-2025-q1
Check “Market Share by OS” and switch it to Windows. Every one of those 67.359% of people who is using Chrome had it downloaded to their computer on purpose instead of just clicking “Internet” and getting Edge. Obviously they feel strongly enough to do that, so I don’t see how they would be amenable to losing all their bookmarks and settings and just going with Edge when one day their OS tries to trick them into it.
many of those chrome ‘users’ got there after clicking on one of google’s many somewhat misleading ‘advertisements’ or ‘notices’ or ‘warnings’
Citation: It is known
How many of them? How do you know?
“Many. It is known.”
I also like how you put “users” in quotes for some reason. Anyway, good talk.
I can assure you that the vast majority of users in my footprint, about 600 of them, use Chrome because we set it as default. Many people have no idea the difference between Chrome and edge. I am currently sitting at a desk where the user has opened Chrome, but it is not default.
That’s why I used the specific phrasing “had it downloaded to their computer” instead of claiming that they were the ones to do it. You’ll notice that those users in your footprint also fall into a category of people which this won’t do a damn thing to influence.
Yes, they will.
I think you’re overestimating the degree to which the majority of users are willing to inconvenience themselves over a browser. If Microsoft announced tomorrow that Windows no longer supported any browser other than edge you wouldn’t see a mass migration to Linux. Instead you would see a healthy uptick in complaints about edge.
Maybe not mass migration, but that alone would probably add another percentage point or so to Linux’s market share, while others would just set about breaking the limitation/working around it within probably hours.
Unless enterprise is part of the equation. All those people are simply stuck using whatever thier company uses. Which is usually Edge and Chrome. With no option to change.
The people who wouldn’t notice wouldn’t have changed their browser.
You’re assuming they’re the ones who installed it in the first place.
Ding ding ding
I am willing to bet there will be A LOT of people. I am a very tech savvy person, and I use edge on my work computer for many things (single sign on). My default search engine changed to bing, and I ended up using bing by accident for a while. And then for a while longer cause I was too lazy to change the setting.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Most users I know can’t distinguish Edge from Chrome any longer. I have to ask them to look for the Copilot symbol to differentiate the two.
All of that but then also that they will buy out any competition so you can care and notice, but fuck you.
Translation.
We found a problem and its that you made the Wrong choice.
Set Microsoft edge to default browser
It’s not your choice, it’s Spacer’s Choice!
Why has OP’s post been downvoted to begin with?
Some Lemmy clients make it insanely easy to accidentally down vote things without even noticing you did it.
Voyager when you want to move back to your feed is a good example of this
Can confirm.
That app was your other browser. And the problem was that it made itself your default browser. But no worries. We fixed that right up for you.
