• beella@lemmings.world
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    6 days ago

    If Kamala won, you wouldn’t be upset even though the working class is still losing.

    All you’d be saying for her wet-noodle policies is “at least it’s not Trump!”

    You people really need to stop pretending that Kamala’s victory would be your victory. They’re all victories for the ruling class.

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      I’d be upset, I dislike her very much. However, we wouldn’t be watching SNAP benefits disappear. Women wouldn’t be denied abortions. We wouldn’t have ICE standing around in masks shooting civilians with paint balls.

      The real problem is people like you. People who think we have to make everyone suffer. That burn it down and rebuild it lie, or the “reset” button. Sure, you can burn it down and press reset, it reset is slavery and feudalism.

      Good luck!

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        If it upsets you so much, you can do something about it.

        Start supporting better candidates and encourage others to do the same.

        Once we nominate a candidate that actually cares about the working class, then we can stop having this discussion and focus on solving real problems.

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          That is not how politics actually works.

          I do support better candidates… In the primary… But then I vote for the person who is the least likely to destroy everything.

          That’s the problem with 2024. The Democrats never had a primary. That was wrong. Nobody wanted her. And just because you don’t like the candidates doesn’t mean you’re not supposed to vote.

          I think what a lot of uneducated lefties forget is that “better” is subjective, and that positive change happens in very small amounts–whereas negative change usually happens in huge chunks.

          But if you really want to know what I think, I feel humanity is far too flawed to get beyond where we are right now as a society. I mean, look at us, we are sitting here arguing and probably on generally the same side. There is zero hope.

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            6 days ago

            You were willing to overlook a genocide. We are not on the same side. Maybe one day you will come around to my side and we will welcome you. I will never come around to your side.

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        Oh I’m sure it’ll right itself after a century or two. Just like the last time, and not in their lifetimes. Lol.