It’s not called Obamacare, it’s called the affordable care act and every time a media outlet does this it hurts the program that helps millions of people.
That’s the point.
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Obama care and aca is the same thing. Maybe it confuses people but how does calling it Obama care make it sound bad? For me Obama care sounds like a compliment to Obama, like he tried to do something good even though it was gutted by Republicans. That $500-1000 fine for not having insurance really pissed me off though. I worked overtime to make 30k annually and wasn’t offered health care but also did not qualify for affordable insurance
Remember when Obama wore a tan suit and Republicans were ready to burn the white house down? That’s why. For a minority of Americans they think Obama was the anti-Christ. That’s why.
Leave aside how flawed the bill was, but call it what is is: the affordable care act.
Do you have any idea how ‘Obama care’ started? Because it wasn’t his idea, it was Romney-care first. Kicker here is that Romney-care was spawned by the Heritage Foundation. The ones responsible for Project 2025.
You draw whatever conclusions you want from that.
I didn’t know that. I don’t remember specifics anymore, I remember the aca was revised over and over before it was approved. Should have been called the pos act
The Nazi party uses Obamacare as a boogeyman scare tactic fueled by racism and a desire to split the population more.
Its better to remind anyone using Obamacare that it in fact, Romney Care.
Ya the penalty was such a slap in the face. Health tax for being healthy. Helped to pay for these fat MAGAs who probably would have succumbed to diabetes by now.
No, it was meant to feed the fund like safe drivers do for liability insurance. Leaving only sick/older adults in (like only bad drivers) means that pay outs for claims would have to drain the fund. But you go on thinking you’ll be healthy for the rest of your life.
The social contract means something.
I’ve got millions of dollars in taxes paid and I’m living in poverty with no access to medical or food resources lol. Social contract deez. They are using the constitution as toilet paper and you’re telling me about a social contract with a insurance company after paying in 20 years to the actual social contract that’s been disposed of for tax cuts on private jets. Jesus Christ man get a grip. Glazing the insurance industry for wut?
Yea I pay the social security and Medicare taxes. I didn’t make a social contract with a fucking insurance company. Free Luigi.
Your ignoring how it is for profit by private insurance companies.
Yeah, we should have gotten a single-payer or government-administered system that no one could have (except maybe the Amish) opted out of. That way, middle-man costs could have been accounted for and the millionaire CEOs shut out more easily. Congress sold us out to serve the UHC and other masters.
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helps people to purchase insurance with subsidies but does not help citizens have healthcare
minimum wage is still stuck at $7.25 and any healthcare solution involving subsidies that go directly to megacorps that are actually causing the healthcare crisis while still requiring massive payouts from citizens just to have healthcare does not help at all
democrat mindset of less bad=good enough is not sufficient to tackle the healthcare needs of any country
throwing some Febreze on a pile of shit definitely does not help agree but at the end of the day no matter what do or don’t do still a pile of horseshit and bad for you
Amen.
The Affordable Care Act “enrolleee sees premium spike over 300% as sign-up period begins: ‘This will devastate us.’”
-You’re right, that does sound nicer
/s
I’ve used the program for both market insurance and medicaid and beside the expanded medicaid I consider the program a failure from inception. -Insurance doesn’t have to pay if they refuse to acknowledge a person’s claims which renders all other benefits a moot point.
Expanded medicaid was the point, we were supposed to have single-payer and mandated insurance with ACA, and then Republicans stripped those out, which hobbled the program and took away the main advantages. It’s worth revisiting this because this is how 32/33 of the most developed nations on earth do it, surely there’s something worth salvaging and trying again on.
Quick edit just to add, during the first year of ACA, I had to get it due to the mandate even tho I was healthy and young. My lung spontaneously collapsed that year, and I had to have $330,000 worth of surgeries. I paid $19 for a medication that was optional, otherwise I saw no bill. The program can work.
This is how it was supposed to be.
then Republicans stripped those out
when the democrats had control of the house and senate? -That’s akin to the current repubs blaming the democrats for the shutdown.
-Also if it’s really about expanded medicaid then it’s not particularly related to the post. Medicaid premiums I highly doubt are going up 300%
Nor are the VA costs. Turns out the government is very good at negotiating its own costs and passing them along to the taxpayers
Wait, I was told everything, even including Faux News, was the "liberal media, though…
That’s the point. Make you poor and unable to choose. Good thing Kamala didn’t win though, we really lucked out avoiding “business as usual” bullshit.
This is what I don’t understand. Do people not factor the consequences of giving the orange buffoon power again and the impact that choice has on their own country, economy and system of government, nevermind what is happening half a world away?
People are tired of falling in line for a party that doesn’t support them.
It’s an easy fix, just start nominating progressive candidates.
The only issue is that upper middle class white folks will have to pay more in taxes, so they’d rather have Trump.
It’s all about the money, and money brings out the worst in people.
I was saying to my older friends that AOC should really be running for president because in a lot of ways she brings with her Bernie ideologies, my friend told me that Democrats need to run a moderate candidate. She is a great progressive who fights bullies, instead of making backroom deals with them. I really hope Mamdani wins in New York and will signal that people really want progressives in office. AOC would be an amazing president because she actually puts the work into listening to people and acting on it.
I had a super progressive friend throw her vote away because of a war happening across the globe that’s been going on for thousands of years. Kamala supported Israel and on top of that, “she’s a cop.”
Probably expected the gaza war to end the first day trump was in office too…
But no, progressives aren’t necessarily the entire answer either, as other forum members hope. Nothing against AOC or Bernie (I think they’re great). Vote by policy and solutions, not personality or affiliation.
I think a lot of people in this world enjoy watching the suffering of others. I’ve noticed quite a number of people who claim to be lefties on here who seem to be perfectly fine with people suffering because they are suffering themselves.
They are the kind of people who would get angry and abstain from voting if they did not qualify for student loan forgiveness. They are not OK with one group of people having a win unless they are in that group of people.
The same group of people who get angry at your lifestyle because it interferes with the rules their religion forces them to adhere to? The religion they chose to follow? Those people and people who think like them?
Mostly the fake commies on here.
If Kamala won, you wouldn’t be upset even though the working class is still losing.
All you’d be saying for her wet-noodle policies is “at least it’s not Trump!”
You people really need to stop pretending that Kamala’s victory would be your victory. They’re all victories for the ruling class.
I’d be upset, I dislike her very much. However, we wouldn’t be watching SNAP benefits disappear. Women wouldn’t be denied abortions. We wouldn’t have ICE standing around in masks shooting civilians with paint balls.
The real problem is people like you. People who think we have to make everyone suffer. That burn it down and rebuild it lie, or the “reset” button. Sure, you can burn it down and press reset, it reset is slavery and feudalism.
Good luck!
If it upsets you so much, you can do something about it.
Start supporting better candidates and encourage others to do the same.
Once we nominate a candidate that actually cares about the working class, then we can stop having this discussion and focus on solving real problems.
That is not how politics actually works.
I do support better candidates… In the primary… But then I vote for the person who is the least likely to destroy everything.
That’s the problem with 2024. The Democrats never had a primary. That was wrong. Nobody wanted her. And just because you don’t like the candidates doesn’t mean you’re not supposed to vote.
I think what a lot of uneducated lefties forget is that “better” is subjective, and that positive change happens in very small amounts–whereas negative change usually happens in huge chunks.
But if you really want to know what I think, I feel humanity is far too flawed to get beyond where we are right now as a society. I mean, look at us, we are sitting here arguing and probably on generally the same side. There is zero hope.
You were willing to overlook a genocide. We are not on the same side. Maybe one day you will come around to my side and we will welcome you. I will never come around to your side.
Oh I’m sure it’ll right itself after a century or two. Just like the last time, and not in their lifetimes. Lol.
I am sure that, like many people, she dislikes you as well.
I’m sure we are in the same boat
No. You and I do not share the same boat.
Yes, we are in the exact same boat. You don’t know me and therefore you can’t confirm that we are not. You just want to be mean to someone online… Boat.
The sad thing is that anyone who’s been paying attention could tell she was never going to win against a rich white man.
She was calm yet passionate.
She was intelligent yet down to earth.
She was serious but not afraid to laugh at bullshit from the GOP.
She had amazing policies that benefited the middle and lower class on both sides.
None of that ever mattered. She was never going to win against a rich white man.
The DNC fucked up big time.
wtf are you talking about
harris had a celebrity filled gala where republicans were invited but the people speaking on behalf of the middle and lower class and about policies that would benefit them and everyone else were locked outside and were not permitted in
what policies she was just some lawyer from california who after dating her boss got a higher position at work afterwards
In 1990, Harris was hired as a deputy district attorney in Alameda County, California, where she was described as “an able prosecutor on the way up”.[29] In 1994, Speaker of the California Assembly Willie Brown, who was then dating Harris, appointed her to the state Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and later to the California Medical Assistance Commission.[29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
didnt lose to whitey she is a whitey
She played the game under the rules white men had designed and implemented almost 250 years ago.
Maybe we should stop playing their game instead of being a bunch of little bitches?
Just an idea.
First rule of life – Either change the rules or change the game, because playing their game by their rules means you’re guaranteed to lose.
I don’t think those rules actually ever worked. You can’t change the game of life—you have to play it.
For the death cult, the cruelty was always the point.
And it is a death cult
Look at their churches everyone praying to the nailed-up dying guy pleading for their Savior to come back and end the world
Christianity is sick as fuck and Christofascists are in charge
I was referring to the Republican party, not the religion.
I see your point though.
Fair point. There used to be a distinction.
To quote the great Peter Sellers: “Not anymore!”
In spite of the despicable nature of the christo-fascists that took over the party, I do have to keep reminding myself that it’s not a majority.
For one, it wasn’t a majority that voted for trump, and even those votes have been revealed through statistics to have been tampered with.
I don’t feel like I could be an apologist, but I also don’t feel comfortable condemning whole groups because of minority bad actors.
I’m in conflict for sure though, because if you see a Nazi sit down at a table with 10 people, what you have is 11 Nazis.
As for this last vote, if you voted, you knew and if you claim you didn’t, you’re either lying to yourself or to everyone else.
/Soapbox
Isn’t this why the US government is shut down? To avoid this specific thing?
It’s shut down to bring attention to this and demand extended subsidies that prevent this kind of thing. The shut down is a bargaining chip, not a solution.
I don’t desperately need medical care, but my heart burns for anyone who does rn.
I received a message that my “so cheap it was basically free” plan will be 400$ a month starting in 2026. I’m going to call in on monday to tell them to cancel it.
People will die because of this as a direct result.
I’m in the same position.
Smith and Wesson is my health care provider. This is America!!
But remember the Orange Turd has a plan. Your death.
*Concepts of a plan
